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Old 01-24-2009, 05:09 PM
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So this is just for Shelby to collect their own data? No user/owner interface for info on other cars?
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are you a member of SAAC? before i bought mine i e-mailed them to ask your same question and they e-mailed me back told me who owns the CSX#, where it was bought and when. the owner also had the MSO, and all papers from ordering the car to the last oil change. i also called the dealer that sold the car.
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As many of you may or may not know the Shelby American Inc Continuation Cobras are no longer being listed in the Shelby American Automobile Club (SAAC) Registry.
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As many of you may or may not know the Shelby American Inc Continuation Cobras are no longer being listed in the Shelby American Automobile Club (SAAC) Registry.
So are Kirkhams listed? If so why and why not SAI?
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So are Kirkhams listed? If so why and why not SAI?
no Kirkhams, no MK IV, only Series 2000 and 3000
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So are Kirkhams listed? If so why and why not SAI?
While not an official answer, I'm betting that the early cars are easier to track, trade hands far less often. For a late model Shelby product to be tracked, it would most likely take a crew 10+, working on a full time, 40 hour a week payroll. Some of the late model (CSX4000 and up) offerings are traded so much, they could have their own 1-3 full page spread using type 10 fonts.

Just my two cents worth on what the reasoning may be.

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PS: I do question the sudden restart of a thread last posted on in 2009 though. Seems to be quite a few dead threads being resurrected recently for one reason or another, where a new thread would be warranted instead.
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Old 10-30-2019, 01:42 PM
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While not an official answer, I'm betting that the early cars are easier to track, trade hands far less often. For a late model Shelby product to be tracked, it would most likely take a crew 10+, working on a full time, 40 hour a week payroll. Some of the late model (CSX4000 and up) offerings are traded so much, they could have their own 1-3 full page spread using type 10 fonts.

Just my two cents worth on what the reasoning may be.

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PS: I do question the sudden restart of a thread last posted on in 2009 though. Seems to be quite a few dead threads being resurrected recently for one reason or another, where a new thread would be warranted instead.
I don't know if they are doing another print version (I'd heard it was on line only) but they have effectively cut their subscriber base down to a handful. The "original" cars' owners are well known and highly placed and could for the most part care less about the book and even less so about the content online (most of them have hired hands to take care of the cars and probably have only looked at the original books once.) So, who precisely is their market? I found out quite a bit about the CSXxxxxLA series in the book. (I used the bench copy at SAI, not spending that kind of money for two pages of info.) It's been a long time since the last one, anyone want to predict if there will even be another?

Note also that there are a number of originals that trade hands privately. I doubt the detectives are able to fully document the whereabouts of all of the original either. The history of any one of them is only as good as the public information available or the willingness of an owner to keep it up to date.

PS. The reason for my question was that at one time it had been asserted that only Shelby CSX cars would be dropped but that the Kirkhams would reamain. That seemed to be punitive for SAI, so at least all "continuation" cars are off the books.
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no Kirkhams, no MK IV, only Series 2000 and 3000

Guess it's time for me to sell my 4000 car. Can't believe they are dissing us like that.
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Guess it's time for me to sell my 4000 car. Can't believe they are dissing us like that.
Naaah, if you try hard enough you can get anything in there. See: Evan's (REAL1) Car On The Market
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Does the “Leaf Spring Cobra Registry 5th Edition (2019) provide any kind of new or additional information compared to the 4th edition (2009) covering CSX, KMP and other cars?
Not talking about the owner changes ;-)

I own the 3th and the 4th edition and I’m not sure if I should order the 5th edition.
Many thanks for your advise
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Does the “Leaf Spring Cobra Registry 5th Edition (2019) provide any kind of new or additional information compared to the 4th edition (2009) covering CSX, KMP and other cars?
Not talking about the owner changes ;-)

I own the 3th and the 4th edition and I’m not sure if I should order the 5th edition.
Many thanks for your advise
no, the "Leaf Spring Cobra Registry 5th Edition (2019)" covers "only" a lot of updated informations about CSX 2000 Cars and the COB COX leaf spring cars.
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PS. The reason for my question was that at one time it had been asserted that only Shelby CSX cars would be dropped but that the Kirkhams would reamain. That seemed to be punitive for SAI, so at least all "continuation" cars are off the books.
but that wouldn't have made any sense, what could have been the reason for that?
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no, the "Leaf Spring Cobra Registry 5th Edition (2019)" covers "only" a lot of updated informations about CSX 2000 Cars and the COB COX leaf spring cars.
Hi Peter
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But all are information which I can find in the 4th edition already.
Interested in tech details and not owners
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I actually dropped my membership to the SAAC last year. It really wasn’t geared toward my CSX4000 ownership and now with the continuation cars being removed from their registry, seems they are definitely going to continue to lower their membership base. Just my .02
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