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07-12-2007, 02:20 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX4141
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JDog,
Not to rain on your parade, though converting the fiberglass car to the
aluminum replacement is not an easy task. You may want to contact Shelby, or one of their dealers on the amount of additional work required, as it is not a simple remove and install.
I had considered the same conversion myself, though later gave up as I am happy with what I have!
- Bill -
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07-12-2007, 03:45 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Sacramento,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4795 (Sold)
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Kirkham installed
I was going to have the bro's Kirkham do the swap. It would not be the first CSX car they have installed an aluminum body on.
I hoped that I could sell my 'original' CSX body & cover the installation costs.
jdog
P.S. I'm still keeping my eye on the Kirkham assembly manual post! 
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07-12-2007, 05:15 PM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Palm Coast,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby American CSX 4241 - authentically built
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Originally Posted by jdog
I was going to have the bro's Kirkham do the swap. It would not be the first CSX car they have installed an aluminum body on.
I hoped that I could sell my 'original' CSX body & cover the installation costs.
jdog
P.S. I'm still keeping my eye on the Kirkham assembly manual post! 
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You can't really do a body "swap", the chassis set up is different between glass and alloy. Kirkham gets their alloy bodys already mated to the chassis from the factory in Poland. You'd most likely be swapping all your CSX stuff over to a KMP chassis and body.
If they ARE actually doing a "body swap", they'd have to unwrap an alloy body from a chassis, cut the birdcage off their chassis, then fit it to your CSX chassis, and then reattach the body. It would probably be cheaper to just buy a bare alloy body/frame from them and swap your parts.
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CSX 4241, KMP 357 - sold and missed, CSX 4819 - cancelled, FFR 5132 - sold
See my car at CSXinfo.net here >> CSX 4241
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07-12-2007, 05:25 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
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Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
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Originally Posted by Power Surge
You can't really do a body "swap", the chassis set up is different between glass and alloy. Kirkham gets their alloy bodys already mated to the chassis from the factory in Poland. You'd most likely be swapping all your CSX stuff over to a KMP chassis and body.
If they ARE actually doing a "body swap", they'd have to unwrap an alloy body from a chassis, cut the birdcage off their chassis, then fit it to your CSX chassis, and then reattach the body. It would probably be cheaper to just buy a bare alloy body/frame from them and swap your parts.
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I think this has been done before without requiring a "bird cage" swap, just a "body swap". Like I said earlier, there was a Kirkham frame and a Shelby fiberglass body for sale a year or two ago. They were apparently left over from putting the Kirkham body on the Shelby car.
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07-12-2007, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 1ntCobra
I think this has been done before without requiring a "bird cage" swap, just a "body swap". Like I said earlier, there was a Kirkham frame and a Shelby fiberglass body for sale a year or two ago. They were apparently left over from putting the Kirkham body on the Shelby car.
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Does anyone remember this?
Kirkham frame/CSX 4000 Body...AGAIN...and AGAIN
I guess from reading this, parts of the tubing that attached the fiberglass body to the CSX were moved to the left over Kirkham frame. So at least part of the birdcage was swapped along with the body. So I was wrong...
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07-12-2007, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Power Surge
You can't really do a body "swap", the chassis set up is different between glass and alloy. Kirkham gets their alloy bodys already mated to the chassis from the factory in Poland.
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I don't see any chassis under these bodies....
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07-12-2007, 08:03 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
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Originally Posted by dynoroom
I don't see any chassis under these bodies....
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Mike..there has to be...otherwise it would be a flat pile.
The body alone, without the inner superstructure, is a gum wrapper.
Tom K. and I talked about the swap last weekend.
Look at the KMP frame....
Just about every tube above the rails is a wrap-point for the alum to be riveted.
Plus...you need all those tubes to be in the correct place for all the close-out panels to fit.
The process would be to literally hack it all off above the rails and marry the KMP superstructure to the old frame.
...lotsa work. 
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