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10-03-2008, 05:31 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
NH
Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C)
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Guys (yes, I realize this is an old thread but its a timeless topic)
I just bought a battery tray from ebay which was claimed to be from a CSX4000 appliaction. I plan to add the two G35's behind the passenger seat as S/C had.
Question:
The tray is only 15" in length however the width is 5" thus fine. Does SAI suggest the use of the Optima or G35 for their tray? If so, the tray I purchased was misrepresented and not from a 4000 car. Not a huge deal as a 5" extension on angle steel is easy just an extra job I didn't expect.
Is a true CSX4000 tray the full 20" length?
Thanks guys!
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10-03-2008, 05:35 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Palm Coast,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby American CSX 4241 - authentically built
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1985 CCX
Guys (yes, I realize this is an old thread but its a timeless topic)
I just bought a battery tray from ebay which was claimed to be from a CSX4000 appliaction. I plan to add the two G35's behind the passenger seat as S/C had.
Question:
The tray is only 15" in length however the width is 5" thus fine. Does SAI suggest the use of the Optima or G35 for their tray? If so, the tray I purchased was misrepresented and not from a 4000 car. Not a huge deal as a 5" extension on angle steel is easy just an extra job I didn't expect.
Is a true CSX4000 tray the full 20" length?
Thanks guys!
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It's however long you make it. They don't "come" with trays.
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Sal Mennella
CSX 4241, KMP 357 - sold and missed, CSX 4819 - cancelled, FFR 5132 - sold
See my car at CSXinfo.net here >> CSX 4241
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10-03-2008, 05:48 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
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Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C)
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Sal
SAI does not offer a S/C battery tray? Thought it might be an option? I know yours came in the trunk, ever do the switch?
If SAI doesn't sell a tray I will not give the ebay seller rave reviews.
Jeff
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10-03-2008, 07:30 PM
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Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Southern,
NJ
Cobra Make, Engine: CSX4300, C5AE-H, Toploader
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Other Sal here. My SAI car with a tray. 5 1/2 by 20". Two G35s work nicely. My car was purchased in 2001.
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10-03-2008, 09:24 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: The Colony,
TX
Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4973
Posts: 334
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My car came with a tray as standard. I will measure it in the morning.
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10-04-2008, 12:42 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: San Clemente,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4758, CSX 381 Keith Craft 482 w/ Weber 48 IDA's
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My car was delivered to the original owner in June 2004 and has the same 5 1/2 in by 20 in tray behind the passenger seat.
Gill G-35's painted to look like Rebat Executives with Tiltite checkball caps
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10-04-2008, 05:36 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: The Colony,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4973
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My tray measures 5 1/2 by 20. My car was delivered in March 2008.
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10-04-2008, 06:23 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Las Vegas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 427 SC
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All 4000's come with the tray. HRE did the trunk mount battery.
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10-04-2008, 05:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kris-kincaid
All 4000's come with the tray. HRE did the trunk mount battery.
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Heh, I was starting to wonder that. My apologies .
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CSX 4241, KMP 357 - sold and missed, CSX 4819 - cancelled, FFR 5132 - sold
See my car at CSXinfo.net here >> CSX 4241
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10-12-2008, 06:00 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
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Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C)
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Some resolution:
From the KMS website,
We place two of them side by side into the 427 roadster, behind the passenger seat. We strongly recommend using SEALED batteries, since sulpheric acid dripping about in hard manouvering will cause problems.
We get ours from Batteries Plus, and you should be able to get a pair pretty much anywhere. It's 12 Volt (2 are run in parallel) 35 Ampere Hours.
The largest dimensions:
8 5/8 inches wide
6 inches high
5 1/8 inches deep
At the base:
5 inches by
7 1/2 inches
which fits our 15 1/2 inch by 5 inch battery tray.
Last edited by 1985 CCX; 10-12-2008 at 06:03 PM..
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10-13-2008, 12:26 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Leicestershire,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #523, 427 S/O
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I used a pair of these for my Kirkham. I got them from the local Mobility centre as they are used in electric scooters for the mobility impaired. I paid the equivalent of around $180 for the pair.
I'm looking at making them look at little closer to the Rebat originals with imitation caps and labels.
Paul
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10-13-2008, 12:35 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Las Vegas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 427 SC
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Those UB12350 batteries work pretty good. At one point, Optima had their 6v batteries on national back order, so I asked my battery vendor what he recommended and he said the UB12350. The fit the Shelby and Kirkham trays nicely. The Shelby tray is longer, so there is some space between the batteries. They use those UB12350's as a battery backup in slot machines, so my local battery shop has literally 100's of them in stock.
Here I thought I was being brainy by finding them, but Kirkham had them in their sites all along.
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10-13-2008, 02:48 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
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Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C)
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Paul
Do they actuallty crank the FE? I called Batteries Plus and they said they were for scooters. Huh.....
Priced at $80 each and with some spray paint on the base and some fake caps safer than G35 and less costly too. Best part, no acid to deal with as they are sealed.
Last edited by 1985 CCX; 10-13-2008 at 02:50 PM..
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10-13-2008, 03:54 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Leicestershire,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #523, 427 S/O
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They may well be for scooters, but a single battery will crank my 427 well enough, let alone a pair of them.
Paul
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03-06-2009, 08:22 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Holderness, NH, US of A,
NH
Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4772 old iron FE
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The battery tray I checked out was made from 3/4 x 0.078 angle. It measures 15 5/16 x 5" and has a leg 6 1/8" long under the front outside corner. Jeff will confirm but I believe we used the G35 batteries in it. I will be making some shortly here if anyone needs one or a custom size let me know.
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03-06-2009, 11:04 PM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: California,
Ca
Cobra Make, Engine: NAF 289 Slabside Early Comp Car with 289 Webers and all the goodies. Cancelling the efforts of several Priuses
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If you use one of the more efficient compact gear reductioin starters you can use lighter cable and the smaller batteries without fear. They pull less electricity by design.
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As you slide down the Banister of Life, may the splinters never be pointing the wrong way
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03-07-2009, 01:12 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Leicestershire,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #523, 427 S/O
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Here are my fake Rebats installed and looking pretty good.
They start the car with no problem at all. However, I do have a Hi-Torq mini-starter fitted and I don't know how much effect that has.
Paul
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12-14-2009, 05:08 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Near Chichester, Sussex by the sea......,
UK
Cobra Make, Engine: Crendon 427 S/C 428 FE+toploader
Posts: 668
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just bumping this thread again....
can any experts out there confirm that the tray for these batteries sits, at one end, on top of the trans tunnel, and then a 6" (?) leg secures the other side to the cockpit floor?
thanks,
kevin
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12-14-2009, 05:32 PM
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Location: Holderness, NH, US of A,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4772 old iron FE
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Kevin that's it exactly. There's a picture on my Cobra Parts page of it out of the car. I'm not an expert or a gynacoligist but I'll still take a look at it for ya.
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12-15-2009, 05:14 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Near Chichester, Sussex by the sea......,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Crendon 427 S/C 428 FE+toploader
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perfect - thanks!
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