Found an old picture of a 289 drag racer

[Rich]

http://www.horsepowerheaven.com/feat...CSX3159_01.jpg

Rich

[dkjos]

I'll bet you a beer(payable at DVSFIII) that it's a big block.

[Rich]

I think that would be a pretty safe bet if the "CSX3159" in the url is any indication.

Here's a small blurb about the car at a toy car web site:
http://www.nationaldiecasters.com/ertlshelbys.htm

Rich

[Thorin]

If these toy people know what they are talking about, then it definately is a 427.

http://donstoys.zoovy.com/product/33059

http://amdiecastdrivein.safeshopper.com/62/985.htm?625

http://www.autoblueprint.com/shop/in...090d92d5a3c2f2

Dave Lowell

[PDHse]

Excellent picture Rich, i,ve never seen a picture of that original Dragonsnake before. I bought a plastic 1/24 kit of that car a while ago , it has very good detail on it.
I also bought a diecast 1/18 model of a Dragonsnake in gold colured paint, it has motion performance on the side. Not sure if this one ever existed. This model is made by Ertl.

[computerworks]

Originally posted by PDHse
Excellent picture Rich, i,ve never seen a picture of that original Dragonsnake before. I bought a plastic 1/24 kit of that car a while ago , it has very good detail on it.
I also bought a diecast 1/18 model of a Dragonsnake in gold colured paint, it has motion performance on the side. Not sure if this one ever existed. This model is made by Ertl.

CSX3159 was not an original Dragonsnake... I was sold as a plain ol' street car.
According to the registry, the owner (in '67) took the car to Baldwin-Motion Performance to make it a drag-car. They were a big speed shop here on Long Island, that specialized in Chevy's.
They added the funky pipes, etc.

3159 is significant as the first "return-to-the-wide-hip" cars, so says the registry.

[Cal Metal]

Gotta love those DragonSnakes--whether it be SB or BB's. They have a certain earthy quality to them---independent gearheads running them on weekends and driving them to work on weekdays. Not much factory support, either. Real renegades.

[PDHse]

As we are on the subject of dragonsnakes and drag racing cobras has anybody heard of Dante Deuce? I believe he raced a F.I.A. Cobra for Dean Moon or Shelby himself in various drag race and sprinting events in Great Britain 1964. I have a picture of the car at Kemble airfield near Gloucestershire on my living room wall. Does anybody know anything about Dante Deuce, is he still alive? this probably leads to another interesting story.

[hurricaneharold]

Originally Posted by PDHse

Excellent picture Rich, i,ve never seen a picture of that original Dragonsnake before. I bought a plastic 1/24 kit of that car a while ago , it has very good detail on it.
I also bought a diecast 1/18 model of a Dragonsnake in gold colured paint, it has motion performance on the side. Not sure if this one ever existed. This model is made by Ertl.

Paul,heres a photo of the Baldwin Motion Drag Cobra that Ertl have made a model of,they have also made a model of CSX 3159

[PDHse]

Great picture Harold.:

[Rick Parker]

The picture posted by hurricaneharold is not the same car as above. It is a 289 car. It is mislabled as a 427 (CSX3XXX). The forward braced roll bar, deck mounted fuel filler, narrow rear fenders and flat area surrounding front wheel opening are all telltale signs of a 289.

[computerworks]

The picture posted by Harold is CSX2374.

Notes I have say the car ran 11.04 @119mph

[Rick Parker]

Not bad for a "real" Smallblock

[Excaliber]

Contributing members have the option of deleting their own posts, just thought I'd mention that.

[Rick Parker]

How is it done Kahuna? You're up early, Can't sleep?

[CobraV8]

That's the only original 427 Dragonsnake ever made:



The VIN ist CSX3198.


Simon

[Manowar]

3159 was owned by Clem Hoppe. I saw it at Motion in '67 when I was a little younger.
It had Webers and if CRS doesn't attack, it ran 10's at New York National on those rock-hard slicks.
It sounded louder than mine does now with the same turn-outs.

[kris-kincaid]

Here are a few fairly recent photos of 3159

http://csxinfo.net/compcars/csx3159/index.htm

[WarrenG]

Originally Posted by Rick Parker

The picture posted by hurricaneharold is not the same car as above. It is a 289 car. It is mislabled as a 427 (CSX3XXX). The forward braced roll bar, deck mounted fuel filler, narrow rear fenders and flat area surrounding front wheel opening are all telltale signs of a 289.

I once thought the same. If you check the historical photos for Shelby Cobras, you'll find that the original 427 race cars looked almost identical to the 289 including all of the "tell tale" signs mentioned above.

[A-Snake]

Originally Posted by WarrenG

I once thought the same. If you check the historical photos for Shelby Cobras, you'll find that the original 427 race cars looked almost identical to the 289 including all of the "tell tale" signs mentioned above.

uh....not totally correct. The 'first' built 427 (CSX3002) used a wide-fendered 289 race car body that was widened an additional 2 inches along the tops of the fenders. It did have a forward braced roll bar. The quick fill was located on the right rear fender. 3002 was a prototype because the body buck at AC for the MKIII was not complete at the time. From CSX3003 the MKIII body buck was used.

Now, you might be thinking about CSX2196. That's the leaf spring car that had a 390 installed and then a 427. It became known as the "turd" or the "flip-top" Cobra.