Dragonsnakes now??

[wicked fast]

Thank you very much.

It's drop dead grogeous !!!!

Cheers,
Bill Cook

[Rick Parker]

Hal:

Looks like you have connections to the "way back" machine. Nice to see one unmolested. Thanks for the picture. Where is "El Sid"?

Rick

[Tony Ripepi]

Here is a picture of one of the Dragonsnakes form the SFO auto show in November...I put it in my Gallery.

I'm still trying to work out how to put a photo directly into a post ????????



(...fixed for you.- computerworks)

[PDHse]

Wow, fantastic, don,t ya just love this website.

[snakeeyes]

Hal, welcome to the website and thank you for your immediate contribution! We've had to upgrade Cal Metal's drool cup to the five-gallon version now that you posted the picture.

Bob

[CobraDan]

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[Tony Ripepi]

Computerworks,

Please Please how do you do that....I've hacked around many times and still havn't figured it out.

Tony R.

[snakeeyes]

Tony, once you post an image in your gallery all you need to know is your gallery number and the title of the photo. By putting my computer cursor on the camera icon in your most recent post I think your gallery number is 9813. Computerworks can probably confirm that for us. Assuming that is the case, to post a photo you would just type the following:

[img]http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/data/500/9813imagetitle.jpg[/img

I left off a close bracket ( or "]" symbol) at the very end, so that the photo server wouldn't attempt to pull up a photo when I typed this. Other than adding that last bracket, where I have typed "imagetitle" you would just insert whatever file name you've given to a particular photo in your gallery, with no spaces separating it from your gallery number, and it should pull the photo right out of your gallery...

For further illustration, my gallery number is 10349. I have a photo there titled "scarab1". If I type the following (again, I'm leaving off the last ] symbol for illustration), it will pull that photo out:
[img]http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/data/500/10349scarab1.jpg[/img

Now I'll type the whole thing and throw in that ] symbol:

[computerworks]

You've got the knack, Bob...

Here's another technique that may be easier...

To include a picture in a post, first go and view that picture in full size in the Gallery. Point to the desired full-sized picture and right-click, then select Properties. Note in the middle of the Properties Window there is Address (URL). Highlight the entire address, right-click on the highlight and select Copy.

Then, when you start a post that you would like to include that photo..at the point you want the photo to appear, depress the IMG button in the control panel area above the big gray Reply Box... a pop-up will appear with "http://" in blue. Just point to that phrase, right-click and select paste. That will insert the URL of your image. Say OK and the photo is now imbedded in your post.


Less typing...

[Hal Heindel]

Tony,

That car you photographed at the SFO auto show looks like the second factory DS. That car was destroyed many years ago by vandals (rolled down a hill in New Mexico). Last I heard the owner was looking for a way to restore it. He may have succeeded, and this may be it. Judging from the Daytona Coupe in the background, the color may be darker in your photo than what the car really looks like. The original was painted a heavily metalflaked light blue. Mine isn't metalflaked.

Later this year I hope to put up a website on the Dragonsnake. I've domained both heylittlecobra.com (an old Ripchords tune about a Cobra drag racing a Corvette) and dragonsnake.info. Over the years I've accumulated a ton of material to fill that site with.

Just yesterday, I won an old drag race LP with the sounds of a 63 Cobra racing at Pomona on eBay. Should make for some nice background music.

Hal

[Tony Ripepi]

Hello Hal,

The car in question has a very heavy metal Flake in the paint and I was told at the show that it was just in the last stages of a complete restoration.

Here are a few pics of the McCluskey Coupe that was in the background.






These are also in my gallery,

Tony R.

PS. Thank You Ron

[computerworks]

No problem, Tony...
(The reason the pics above came out small at first...
..is because you got the Properties of the "thumb", or smaller picture, in your Gallery. Click on the thumbnail pic and open to the bigger one...and then get the properties and copy them.
...nice work!)

[TERRY M KRYSTOFIAK]

HAL,
IF CAL METAL HASN'T HOOKED YOU UP WITH THE OWNER OF CSX2427 (LOVE THAT #) E MAIL ME AND ILL SET IT UP. THE PICTURE OF THE 427 DRAGON SNAKE POST, ALSO INCLUDES CSX3002 AND CSX2427, BEFORE 2427 WAS SOLD.THOSE PICTURES LOOK FAMILUAR....WONDER WHERE THEY CAME FROM!?
TERRY

[fordracer]

Is it me or am I the only one that finds it ironic that a Cobra ran in A/SP class ? Get it,Asp is a snake. HUMMMM ?!?!?!?!

[Art Hughes]

Currently trying to get archive info from a Drag Strip in Ohio, (1962), where I believe the first Cobra was run in drag competetion. No, it wasn't a Snake, but a full road race version. Would think fit in the history of this model. As soon as I get results, will post here. Probably a long shot, as who would keep all those zillions of results all these years.

[Cal Metal]

The earliest Factory DragonSnake was CSX 2019 which was campaigned by Tony Stoehr et al. in So Cal. Stoehr was an employee of SAI.

There are a number of cars that were not DragonSnakes per se, but, nonetheless, campaigned on the strips of many states. I will check the Registry, as I have just completed a hundred hour undertaking, dealing with the various SAI dealers, and I have all of the history of the DragonSnakes, as well as cars that were RR versions racing as Drag Cars.

If the car in question was racing in 1962, it had to have been a very early car, probably within the first 50 cars.

[Ed Hedrick]

This is the true history of CSX 2093 as I recall it when I campaigned it in 1966 and 1967 in the NHRA NE Division 1. The car ran in Stock Sports which competed in Street Eliminator. Based on Stock HP/Weight it could compete in three Stock Sport classes with the three engine combinations that Shelby filed with NHRA. All three used the stock Ford 289ci 271hp short block. In B/SP it had the Webers and the big heads rated at 325hp. In C/SP it had two Carter AFB's and the big heads rated at 300hp. In D/SP it had the stock 289ci 271hp. In 1966 I ran it in B/SP the entire season. Won class at all the Nationals I attended. Was able to cure the rear end breakage by having the ring and pinion and posi spider gears annealed from the stock hardness of Rc60 to Rc50 at a heat treater in Phil thanks to Jere Stahl and Bill Jenkins. The Cobra already had the B/SP Nat Record(Costilow & Larson) and I cannot remember if I reset it or not. Believe it was 11.23 or 11.21 @ 119 or 121mph. Cannot find my records on it. In 1967 won class at all the National Events. Was Street Eliminator Champ in NHRA Div 1. Was NHRA World Points Champion(most points in NHRA competition). Ran the Cobra in all three classes. It already had the record in B/SP, set the record in C/SP 11.51 @ 115mph. Never did get the 2 AFB setup working properly. Just missed getting the record in D/SP as the Cobra was running in the 11.60's and with the record at 11.91 or 11.93 I was trying to bump it a couple of hundreth's and missed by .02 putting on the brakes. So, decided to take it to the Nationals at Indy in D/SP much to the sorrow of all the Corvettes. They were running in the high 11.80's and 11.90's the Cobra in the 11.60's. Cobra won D/SP. Sold the Cobra(much to my sorrow!) Jan or Feb '68 as NHRA had changed the rules for Stock Sports. The Cobra could now only compete in two classes and they legalized any camshaft in Stock Sports. Jere Stahl had told me they would change the rules if I ran the Cobra in all three classes. I have pictures of the Cobra and would send if anyone wants them.

[Art Hughes]

Interesting reading the whole thread. Didn't do that last time here.
I had posted earlier that I was trying to establish the exact year that Bob Johnson ran his Cobra road racer at a drag strip.
I will go with summer of 1961. If I am wrong, only option is 1962.
Fresh out of High School, Jan, 1960, went to work at a British car dealer. The head Tech/Service manager, Bernie Decker, was a long time friend of Johnson, and wrenched on his road race cars, which I believe was only on Bob's Formula BMC Junior. ( saw it on my first visit to Johnson'd shop, hanging on the wall) Don't remember if Decker wrenched on Johnson's Corvette.
Tom Gratoex (sp) was Johnsons Cobra wench, and also friends with my boss. I was young and dumb, and thought only drag racing was a real auto sport, and whined about it so often to Decker, that a Cobra at the drags would be a real hoot, so Decker made it happen. They put MG TC wire wheels and top on the Cobra. We went to West Salem, Ohio, Draway 42.
Can't remember any details about the races, why I don't know.
I tried several emails to the strip, and finally they answered that no records exsist from that time frame.
The day it was at the drag strip, still had the road race #33 on it's doors. That can be seen in the only picture I have of it, taken that day. Berine Decker died several years ago, so no help there, and Bob Johnson suffered a stroke, and is in a nursing home. Don't know his condition, except was told he is paralyzed on one sode.

[bbrown]

Right you are Hal.

The blue Dragonsnake picture posted by Tony is currently owned by Drew Serb. He did the restoration over a period of several years. The vandals left the car in pretty rough shape (but I wouldn't call it destroyed) and Drew had to replace/rebuild some of the frame and superstructure. Drew did a very careful restoration, only replacing bits and pieces when the original truly couldn't be salvaged. I've known other "restorers" who would replace entire frames, etc. simply because it's faster and cheaper.

I have had the privilege of watching the car take shape these last few years and I must say that, all in all, the true history of the car remains. Drew did a wonderful job and a piece of history has returned to be shown in public.

Bert Brown
Danville CA

[computerworks]

Ed Hedrick was kind enough to share this trophy shot of CSX2093 in 1967.