Jerry Heasley ripped on SAAC site

[John McMahon]

Originally Posted by BT SNAKE

Historybuff is a Gomer ....

Hersh

Sorry Bret, I fixed it for both you and Hersh....

[mpanten]

When we received the license in 1999 and were asked to sign it we asked him what it was all about. He said not to worry about it. It was just a formality and he would never enforce it. It was just to keep his lawyers happy. We took him at his word, which turned out to be good for a little less than 10 years. In fact, this is one of the salient points of our law suit. In short, we maintain that the contract is not enforceable because it was obtained by fraud. Shelby said that he would never enforce the agreement, and with that understanding we signed it. Then he attempted to enforce it.

Im not advocation a positon one way or another but their argument for the contract not being enforcable is weak.

[Excaliber]

I don't think it is, I think it's a very valid argument. Of course I AM advocating a position, SAAC rules!

Another comparison on contracts:
Some folks are suing their mortgage lenders, banks or who ever in this housing market problem the country faces. Say they were duped into a contract. In SOME cases, I believe they were and have a valid fight against a 'contract' obtained under false or misleading circumstances. I myself was offered such a contract to buy a house there was no way in hell I could afford. But with a wink and a nod the lender 'could make the loan work', then 'flip' the house and we all make money. I was shocked, actually briefly considered the deal. Bailed on it...

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by mpanten

Im not advocation a positon one way or another but their argument for the contract not being enforcable is weak.

Both sides have got high priced lawyers. And I'm sure neither side thinks their argument is weak. I'm not a lawyer, and I don't even pretend to be one on clubcobra.com. Are you?

What is silly about this whole thing is the amount of money spent on lawyers. SAAC is asking each of member to kick in $100, which is more than double the annual membership fee. I'm sure Shelby's lawyers are going to cost him a good deal too. I see no business sense in Shelby chasing after SAAC's revenue in this way. Shelby will probably make more money in a year at his recently opened fast food cafe next to his shop than SAAC will in a year. I can only understand his actions as doing this because he is pissed off at SAAC, not to make money.

[Nedsel]

I suspect everyone can understand the idea of someone getting p.o.'d at something, and taking action. But, given who and what is at stake here, I think most of us would imagine that Shelby might decide to start up a new club and have nothing to do with the old one. To go well beyond that, however - to attempt to shut down SAAC altogether, adopt its trademark, demand to have things back that he willingly gave the club, and completely ignore the fact that this has been his best and biggest booster club for over 30 years, which directly relates to the fame he enjoys today - is astonishing. Shelby has plenty of $ and knows his way around a lawyer's office; he probably knows the same is not true for SAAC. The fact that this wasn't worked out months ago, given the long history between the parties, is pathetic.

[1ntCobra]

You know it is interesting that Team Shelby is supposed to be the only official Shelby club, but Team Shelby has a link to SDAC on their site...

[xlr8or]

Originally Posted by 1ntCobra

Team Shelby has a link to SDAC on their site...

Now there's a high traffic, money maker.

[Mark IV]

Originally Posted by Nedsel

The fact that this wasn't worked out months ago, given the long history between the parties, is pathetic.

Ned,

Not unlike two people who date for years, get engaged and then married. Suddenly, his leaving the toilet seat up pi$$es her off, her constant nagging lights his fuse and, BINGO, divorce court. Hearing both sides, you would think they had NEVER met before tying the knot.

For many years SAAC had their lips firmly attached to C.S.'s arse. They even chose to "overlook" the "found" 1966 chassis and other slightly strange items. But now, they are EVIL INCARNATE and Shelby is the older version of Rosemary's Baby.

Like was quoted in the May 1986 issue of AUTOMOBILE magazine about the "AC MK IV Cobra" and the then "feud" between C.S. and Brian Angliss, "This is one of those situations where, with a little effort, everybody involved can manage to like real a$$holes."

[T5owner]

I think it is not really about Team Shelby/CS vs. SAAC, this is rather about clearing/cleaning a brand name that will be used for the next 25/50 years from Ford. A dash board signing representative at conventions is certainly not what should be perceived with the name Shelby in the future if you discuss it in brand recognition terms.

Without a sports car sub-brand Ford needs something for the future. A good deal would be certainly (or maybe has been done) if Ford promised to finance the various fund raising activities for a period of 10 -25 years and bought the name for that. A thing that Shelby would certainly have interest in. For me only this background makes sense for such a "cleaning process" with the tools/weapons choosen.

[PANAVIA]

The shelby,SAAC,Cobra replicar licensing thing makes me sick.

This is the car equivalent of the Major league baseball strike in my opinion.

My Superformance MkIII is not going to have one thing on it that says "Cobra", it has shelbys name on it on the VIN plate and I guess I cant scratch that off without getting in trouble with CHP.

the SAAC is no fun anymore, grownups showed up and it got serious. (and I am 39 saying this)

--Steve