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05-24-2010, 07:55 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Eagle,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Lone Star 427SC.
Posts: 4,310
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"Nisonger Instruments" questions ?
I've always wanted the correct looking gauges in my Cobra, but the prices are very high. I can now get a great price on the full set of electronic from Nisonger Instruments. Copied from the original Smith gauges, the look great.
I have some questions.
Why was the MPH gauge run reversed, in the counter clockwise direction ?
Can you hook up a small in-dash, shift light to work with the gauge, or just connect to the MSD distributer ?
What is the correct layout for the 7 gauges ?
Just a two year warranty ?
Anybody have any issues ?
I have the VDO electronic gauges now, is there a way to dial in my cars correct mileage, with the new electric speedo gauge ?
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Kevin
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05-24-2010, 08:41 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Holderness, NH, US of A,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4772 old iron FE
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Speedometer was reversed for English gauges and American cables. If the wrong wind cable is used on speedometer it pumps oil out of the trans and up the cable.
Dash layout for Comp is covered here Sc Dashboard Layout Confusion?
Peter at Nisonger is great to deal with and can service anything you get from them.
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05-24-2010, 09:22 AM
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What would be the wrong cable, anything but theirs ?
Do I need to get their Custom Speedometer Cable and the Smiths Oil Pressure Lines ?
I have the VDO gauges now, and assume the cable is from them also.
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Kevin
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05-24-2010, 09:47 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Leesburg, VA USA,
VA
Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary, 427 FE Center Oiler w/ 48 IDA Webers
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Peter used to own Contemporary Classic Motorcars and is a fabulous guy to work with. I have known him forever (I have a Contemporary since 1991). I believe that the speedo was reversed because with its location in the dash, the lower speeds are hard to read in a standard speedo because the left bezel edge obscures the vision. I have used other speedo cables with no problems, but the Nisonger cable will be the correct length (both inside and out). If the inner cable is too long, it will bind and either break or make the speedo jumpy.
Do Not hesitate in buying from Nisonger. They are extremely competent, fair, and honest.
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05-24-2010, 03:46 PM
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It may take me a while to get used to the speedo & tack location if ,....I mount them in accordance to the originals.
Which way do you have yours ?
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05-24-2010, 07:15 PM
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I assumed you were doing a Comp layout dash. If you need more info on that or street dash let me know. The cable several brands use is Napa part number 615-1644 or buy it at Rockauto.
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05-24-2010, 10:15 PM
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I assume so but, I'll have to see where both the tack and speedo feels better to me, when switched in positions. I also want to see the oil psi clearly. The original locations will be fine for the rest of the gauges.
All the info you have would be great.
I may just install a small one to the left of the steering column, but I don't know if my left arm would get in the way. I'll have to sit in the seat and see how it looks.
I may end up making a new stainless steel insert for proper placement of all the gauges ?
Any ideas about a shift light ?
(I will not put one on top of the dash or on the steering column)
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05-25-2010, 06:41 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Midstates (2001)
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why do you need a shift light......you have a tach.......or dont you look at your guages when you out showing off.....hahahaha......put it under the dash just under the tach...they are bright enough that you should see it anyway....
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05-25-2010, 07:02 AM
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With one blind eye, I need all the lights I can get.
I usually shift by the engine sound, and get pretty close.
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05-25-2010, 07:19 AM
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Location: Perrysburg,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF #298 427 FI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
With one blind eye, I need all the lights I can get.
I usually shift by the engine sound, and get pretty close.
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Shift lights are very handy. Mine is on top of the dash but it is mounted on a bracket which can easily be removed without a trace. You wont notice it until it lights up. Unless you put it where you can see it without having to look down from the road you might as well just look at the tach.
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05-25-2010, 08:06 AM
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Exactly.
Do you have a photo ?
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05-25-2010, 08:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
Exactly.
Do you have a photo ?
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I will take one at luch and email it to you. Shoot me your email.
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05-25-2010, 09:20 AM
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05-25-2010, 10:24 AM
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Kev...see if you can get a tach with a shift light built into it.....solves both problems...
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05-25-2010, 01:17 PM
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I really like the original looks of the cobra gauges so, if it comes down to it, I'll do without the light. I haven't used one since building the car back in
2001, it wouild just be nice.
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05-25-2010, 01:49 PM
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you have the three small lights that you use for the h-beam and turn signal ind. why couldent you add a yellow light the same size to use as a shift light?????
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05-25-2010, 02:17 PM
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Yep, you got it. That's where I said just to the left of the steering collum. I figured the same size or a bit larger red light.
Man,..... we think so much a like.
I just got the high volume "RobbMc Performance" fuel pump, regulator, mounting bracket, prefilter ect... as a sponsor.
He's a great guy.
It can support 1100 HP. I'm so happy I don't need to mess with a electric system !
http://www.robbmcperformance.com/products.html
(gettin excited about coming to see our sprint racin ?
I hope it's not 100 degrees in the shade)
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05-25-2010, 05:23 PM
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I would think you would want to keep the light as small as possible so it dosent blind you when it flashes in your face....you may want to test a couple of them to see which will work best....an LED would probably be best....
100 degrees ???? help me i'm melting....aaaahhhhh
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05-26-2010, 10:51 AM
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I'm so,ooo happy. I talked with Peter Bayer and bought the full set with the 180 mph reverse speedo ! He gave me a smolin deal because of the advertising I'll have for him with the engine build and my Cobra.
By the way, it's true, he's a great guy.
Only one problem. I need to find out what type of fuel sending unit I have ?
I hate to pull it off the tank but, I don't know what else I can do to find out.
He does have one that won't bounce the gauge needle around.
I've seen a post somewhere here on CC, where you can get the same size light as the turn signals, but in LED's but, I can't find it.
Yeah, you watch me on Saturday buddy, I WILL MELT !
Supposed to be 90 degrees. Happy I won't be racing, and with a helmet.
I may have to put ice down my shorts !
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05-26-2010, 12:20 PM
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uuuuummmmm..... you had to bring your shorts into this....... didnt you....
Google LED automotive lighting and see what happens....and keep your shorts out of it...
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