SUPPORT OUR SPONSOR

Go Back   Club Cobra > Club Cobra Tech Areas > Shop Talk

Welcome to Club Cobra!  The World's largest non biased Shelby Cobra related site!

  •  » Representation from nearly all Cobra/Daytona/GT40 manufacturers
  •  » Help from all over the world for your questions
  •  » Build logs for you and all members
  •  » Blogs
  •  » Image Gallery
  •  » Many thousands of members and nearly 1 million posts! 

YES! I want to register an account for free right now!  p.s.: For registered members this ad will NOT show

Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Main Menu
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
December 2024
S M T W T F S
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
8 9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
29 30 31        

Kirkham Motorsports

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21 (permalink)  
Old 11-26-2001, 09:18 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Magnolia, Texas,
Posts: 181
Not Ranked     
Wink torque stop....

i started not to respond to this old problem with any performance car of this layout only to watch the answers evolve back to the Shelby American method of 1964, bolts thru the mounts. guy's remember the pics of the R-model GT350 witha chain strap on the left front head, well they had bolts thru the mounts that you couldn't see. before my 350R was stolen the chain was still there along with the bolt thru the mount.
__________________
SonnyB
Reply With Quote
  #22 (permalink)  
Old 11-27-2001, 04:10 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Platte Center, Ne. USA, NE
Cobra Make, Engine: Shell Valley, 514 SVO ... now a 4.6L with an AOD!
Posts: 101
Not Ranked     
Default

Jack21
Thanks for the clarification on the mounts. We do use slightly different adapters on our frame for the 302 and 351w engines but I wasn't quite sure if the mounts on the block were the same. (I grew up with the bowties so I'm still a little new to this blue oval stuff )
P.S. Don't tell the boss but I have more fun talking with you guys in here than the day to day business but I have to do that sometimes too
-Dana
Reply With Quote
  #23 (permalink)  
Old 11-27-2001, 06:54 PM
Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Salisbury, MD, MD
Cobra Make, Engine: Shell Valley 460 cu
Posts: 97
Not Ranked     
Default motor mount

Thank you all for the info and assistance. My mount should be ok once the suspension is adjusted.
Special thanks to Dana and all the folks at Shell Valley who have been great.
Howard
Reply With Quote
  #24 (permalink)  
Old 11-27-2001, 09:11 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Orange, California,
Posts: 60
Not Ranked     
Default movin' around motor mounts

Everything said so-far is pretty much true. I used to snap rubber motor mounts every other week on my own car. I drilled them and put a bolt and two fender washers thru them (had to shave down the bolt head and other side too to clear the block). that helped. Never bought urethane, but the rubber was breaking not just flexing. Used solid moroso's for four years seemed great, but everything started to rattle eventually.

The best way to prevent motor torque-over is to install an aluminum flywheel. The 300 lb/ft cobras with steel flywheels often had chewed-up sidepipe exit holes. The 530 lb/ft cobras with alum. flywheels didn't. The lower rotational inertia of the flywheel, the less it resists being turned, thus your motor doesn't torque over onder hard throttle, or downshifts. The 560 lb/ft cobras do kiss the exit on a SPF, with rubber mounts and an alum. fly. Urethanes, or a solid on the drivers side, and rubber on the other may cure, didn't try.

The explanation was based on the results, not conjecture.

Last edited by aeroace; 11-27-2001 at 09:14 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #25 (permalink)  
Old 06-20-2002, 01:24 PM
hound dog's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: randleman, NC,
Posts: 407
Not Ranked     
Default

I picked up a set of Balkamp motor mounts (Anchor equivalent 2287) at the local NAPA store and what do you know, they have bolts installed through the rubber portion of the motor mount. Looks like one of the manufacturers has been working on a similar problem. I believe that these are intended for 302s even though I'm using them on a 351. The original 351 mounts wouldn't fit the piece that's welded onto the frame. Anyway, should help the torque-over problem without having to modify the mounts.
h dog
Reply With Quote
  #26 (permalink)  
Old 06-21-2002, 09:10 PM
gsharapa's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Prosper, TX
Cobra Make, Engine: CAV GT40 #169, Ford 408 Stroker & ZF Transaxle
Posts: 2,408
Not Ranked     
Default

Solid mounts or a rod, chain etc. not only allows a ton of vibration to be sent through the car but could put on due stress on the frame under burn out or heavy acceleration.

A trick many guys are using is a plastic coded cable with the stock motor mounts. Unlike a rod or chain it will hold the engine but flex just enough to eliminate the vibration! I have one on my 514 and it works great..........Local ACE Hardware store for the cable and fittings. Mount to the head and to the frame of drivers side of the engine.
__________________
Gary
CAV GT40
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:46 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy