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11-25-2022, 09:39 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #795 427 S/C completed Jan. '14 - '68 FE 427 side oiler
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Any idea what this is?
I changed the oil and this was stuck to the magnetic drain plug. I attached two photos to show it has a slight concave shape. I strained the oil and found no other metal, the engine is a side-oiler and runs good - no symptoms. Any clues?
Thanks,
Kevin
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11-25-2022, 11:44 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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No idea, but you know it sticks to a magnet. It wouldn't hurt to pop the valve covers off and have a look-see just in case.
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11-25-2022, 12:54 PM
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Thanks, I’ll do that.
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11-25-2022, 05:42 PM
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Piece of a valve spring? Can't imagine it a piece of a valve seat without having some poor performance. The radius throws me.
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11-25-2022, 05:54 PM
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Kevin
Do some reverse engineering on the radius to determine what the diameter was, approximately. Will help you to narrow the search.
Depending on size, could be a part of a snap ring from a lifter, part of a ring, part of a piston pin keeper, maybe a chip off the distributor gear
Just some ideas
Paul
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11-25-2022, 08:43 PM
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Good idea Paul. I’ve got a bin full of washers of various sizes that will enable me to approximate the diameter. I’ll do that tomorrow.
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11-26-2022, 08:00 AM
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By comparing the curvature of this piece of metal to various size washers, the diameter is 1".
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11-28-2022, 01:49 PM
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11-28-2022, 04:59 PM
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Kevin,
Dumb question #xxx37: could it be part of the oil pan?
Tom
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11-28-2022, 07:15 PM
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Tom,
Not a dumb question. I have no idea what it is. Will start inspecting everything I can as soon as I can get to it.
Thanks,
Kevin
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11-28-2022, 08:17 PM
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Kevin,
Unrelated to conversation, but really like your paint choice, what red is it? I have a Unique being built and going to paint soon. Trying to decide on color.
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11-29-2022, 07:19 AM
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Hi Razor,
It is a GM color used on many different vehicles from Corvettes to trucks until around 2012 or 2013. After that, GM replaced it with a slightly different red called Crystal Red Tint. It was available in both two and three stage configurations - I went with two stage.
Red Jewel, GM code WA301N, PPG 908589. The stripes are Evoke Gray, GM code WA354N, PPG 918801
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11-29-2022, 07:52 AM
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The way it is slightly bent, I suspect it is part of a locking washer. The type where you tighten the nut/bolt and then hammer the edge of the washer up to lock it in place. Sometimes the hammering can cause a fracture crack where it bends up against the fastener.
Not familiar with the assembly of the side oiler. Take a look in the manual ans see if you can locate such use internally. I would not be too concerned if that is where it came from.
If you are seriously concerned, you can take a sample of your oil to an aircraft oil analyzer company, and they can see if there is an unexpected amount of metal in the oil.
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11-29-2022, 12:38 PM
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Looks like a piece of the valley pan.
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11-29-2022, 03:05 PM
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Kevin,
Thanks for the info, you have an awesome looking car.
Rex
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11-29-2022, 04:04 PM
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I’m still hoping one of the resident engine builders will recognize it.
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11-30-2022, 07:29 AM
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The only thing I can visualize is maybe a chunk of a broken section of dipstick tubing? A piece of the pressed/rolled section at the upper left of this image?
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11-30-2022, 07:31 AM
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11-30-2022, 08:18 AM
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looks like a part of a washer that goes around the valve spring.
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11-30-2022, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by HTM101
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No, it does not.
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