Flange yoke question

Whaler · #1 (**permalink**) 03-22-2002, 03:07 PM

Looking to source all the parts for my driveshaft build....
I have 8.8 IRS..and a Tremec TKO I have that slip yoke
I require a matching flange yoke for the third member (ford 8.8)
Does anyone know or have a part number/supplier for this yoke
I would like to try and do all this in a 1330 or better series....
Once I have this missing yoke I can start measuring.

As for using a donor....I have the mate to the TKO slip yoke so thats another question later

Whats comes on the boneyard mustangs/t-birds?? Are they adequate?

Thanks

Tim

Whaler · #2 (**permalink**) 03-22-2002, 06:36 PM

Just got back from the bone yard...looked at Mustangs/cougars and even some F150's... The few V8 mustangs were 80's vintage.
I found one shaft out of a V8 LX with the right flange yoke at 2 1/2 inch bolt circle and 2 inch Pilot hole, but the shaft is 3 inches only in the center section and 2 3/4" at the ends where the weld flanges are.
Shouldn't the shaft be 3 inches all the way thru for ease of shortening?

What is the FFR crowd using? What car would the strongest come from?
Up here in Canada to have one made up, they want $CDN 400 plus.

Tim

gomersdad · #3 (**permalink**) 03-22-2002, 06:47 PM

TIM I'am at the same point you are, have same pieces ecept for 9" rear. Have $ of 250 to build shaft if i supply ends. Let me know what you find out.

Whaler · #4 (**permalink**) 03-22-2002, 07:00 PM

Hi
Here's a website that is a good resource for explaining the how to's..especially on measurements

Denny's

I liked the FAQ's on the link tabs as well.

Spicer is our aftermarket name in these components..
something in 1330 or 1350 series is likely

Tim

gomersdad · #5 (**permalink**) 03-22-2002, 07:29 PM

TIM Thanks for tip on denny's site. what is available local in respect to the ends either from Ford or aftermarket, once i have them there is a place in Kitchener that will build and balance the shaft.

Ken

Whaler · #6 (**permalink**) 03-22-2002, 10:33 PM

these are the best aftermarket pieces in the driveline division...Spicer under Dana.
If you can loctae the pieces you need thru a major parts house then you are doing ok...otherwise any machine shop doing driveshaft work has a line on these as well

Spicer

There is a couple contacts in the linked page..in Canada and on your side of the Nation..call them and see who sells it

Tim

gomersdad · #7 (**permalink**) 03-24-2002, 03:16 PM

Whaler

Excellent link on that Spicer site, they have a outlet only 30 min away, plus as you said they have a tough product. thanks again

Whaler · #8 (**permalink**) 03-24-2002, 03:27 PM

Hi Ken
Glad you liked it
I will likely be jobbing mine out to an outfit in Vancouver...easy shipping and same day turnaround
Driveline Services...They are also about $250 as compared to $400 from the local shops...
Driveline

I used the forms from another good site to do all my measurements. Will ship them with my slip yoke which is all I have.

Didn't get any bites on the mustang donor thing did we?? Maybe there's a message in itself.

I will likely be using the heavier 1350 spec with the 428...as someone else said that 15 inch driveshaft is right beside your A$$...I have a safety loop but we can't let this be a reason to shortcut.
I was careful; to route my rear brakeline and fuel line on the inner and top sides of my frame rail....the opposite side I did my Battery feed...

Could be quite ugly if something let go

Tim

gomersdad · #9 (**permalink**) 03-24-2002, 03:37 PM

HI Tim
I wouldn't worry about the driveshaft letting go because when the flywheel and clutch let go you won't notice the driveshaft! Thinking of Kevlar blanket for bellhousing. I will be getting a price on driveshaft tomorrow and will let you know for comparison.
Ken

dscott · #10 (**permalink**) 03-25-2002, 09:01 AM

Whaler, I use the drivshafts from the Ford Crown Victoria or the Mercury Marquis. The front yoke will work on all T5's and the Tremec 3550. The rear yoke is an 8.8. The shaft is larger than the Mustang and generally costs much less than a Mustang shaft. I usually pay about $25 for the driveshaft and about $100 to have it shortened, new joints and balanced.
Don

Whaler · #11 (**permalink**) 03-25-2002, 09:16 AM

Don thanks for the reply
I take it these are newer model years.
I imagine they would be healthier as they are the bigger car...
would you know if they are 3" OD for the entire length of the shaft or if they are narrower at the weld yokes?

Tim

dscott · #12 (**permalink**) 03-25-2002, 10:04 AM

Tim, Yes they are the later models, mid 80's to early 90's. I don't have any here right now but I'm sure they were all 3" the entire length.
Don

Whaler · #13 (**permalink**) 03-25-2002, 10:25 AM

Phoned a wrecker form out of town..he did have a 91-92 crown vic
asked what it goes for...and I get the standard "100 bucks" answer....
At least my local buddies only wanted $50 for practically any driveshaft....LOL
So throw in the machining costs to shorten etc. and cleanup...and I think I am better off with the custom built for $250.
Don thanks for the info...helps

Tim

gomersdad · #14 (**permalink**) 03-26-2002, 02:05 PM

Whaler... Just got a price of $245 to build and balance a new shaft complete,as you i think a better buy than getting used $50 + and then shorten for another 100+, and still have used u-joints. thanks for the imput.

Ken

Whaler · #15 (**permalink**) 03-26-2002, 09:28 PM

Good luck Ken..seems like a great deal
I sent mine in yesterday...one slip yoke and some measurement diagrams. They do the rest

He said it may be as much as 300 depending on choice of components

Yes sir you want no doubts with this piece.
My total from tranny face to rearend flange is 18" Imagine what the shaft length will be. What was your measurement?

Tim

Whaler · #16 (**permalink**) 04-03-2002, 09:27 PM

Got mine back today....shipped in from Vancouver on the bus
$170 in parts. $129 labor

.083" Tube is only 13 " long... $8.50
flange yoke $40
2 weld yokes $78
2 u-joints $63

2 cut&welds $84
Balance $45

with 10% off
so $343 total with pst/gst
Well spent
Nice job all new spicer stuff.

Tim
still need 4 new flange bolts? Aftermarket? Ford?

Howard Bosworth · #17 (**permalink**) 04-04-2002, 09:26 AM

My trans will be ready soon so I'm also looking at driveshafts.
Seems a new custom actually is cheaper in the long run than the donor cut weld balance route. Have any of you fellows used Dennys ? Looks like a good site but....
thanks for any help
Howard

Whaler · #18 (**permalink**) 04-04-2002, 10:40 PM

Howard
I came out cheaper than Denny's when considering the CDN exchange .$215 US
I used Denny's measuring diagrams for all my specs, then sent them to the machine shop along with it.
Denny's would be good, but for me it's too far out of the way and priced higher.
They know their stuff as well...great reference

Tim

gomersdad · #19 (**permalink**) 04-05-2002, 12:21 PM

Hi Tim...

Have not been able to take my measurements,because bell housing has not come in yet, Ford has on back order until end of may. nice spot to be in eh? I called all the big shops like summit,jegs,paw,etc finally found a motorsport dealer in texas! yes texas, that had one in stock,having it shipped today so shloud get it by tues.
as for your bolts the ford # you need is N800594-S100 x 4 of them. hope that helps.
Ken

Whaler · #20 (**permalink**) 04-05-2002, 12:31 PM

Funny thing Ken
I just got back in from running down to the ford dealer....We came up with the same # He only had one on hand..3 on order..2 bucks ea.
Thanks for the part number on those bolts.
I got to fit it this morning the shaft is perfect.

Good luck going forward

Tim