What Wax / Polymer / Finish Is Best??

CMansfield · #1 (**permalink**) 05-22-2002, 12:26 PM

Is Carnuba better than a Polymer wax? I have been using Malm's carnuba wax for 20 years, am trying to find out if switching to a man made product such as those sold by Zaino makes sense. I believe Malm's is very similar to Griots.

Is one type of product better for your paint? To those chemists and others with experience out there, which way should I go??
Thanks, Chas

klayfish · #2 (**permalink**) 05-22-2002, 12:33 PM

I'm no chemist, I only know that I'm some type of carbon based life form (I think my wife said something about being a pig, or a snake, or something), but I had other forum members convince me to try Zaino products. They are well worth the money. After careful application, the car shines beautifully. Their touch up spray works great, and you don't have to use much at all, so the bottle will last a long time.

Steve

B L & sons · #3 (**permalink**) 05-22-2002, 01:41 PM

chas
I use the Zaino Bros product it is the best.
after you try it ,it will be the only polish you will use.
www.zainobros.com
732-833-8800
Regards
Bill

Randy Rosenberg · #4 (**permalink**) 05-22-2002, 03:40 PM

Ditto on the Zaino - I use it on all of my vehicles.

Call Sal and ask for distributor in your area. Distributors add a ton of value about how to use the products, and which products are best for your application, etc... These distributors have first hand knowledge of the products, and in many cases can deliver the product quicker and UPS.

Have Fun,
Randy R...

cdog · #5 (**permalink**) 05-22-2002, 04:34 PM

There have been some independent tests done and Zaino wasn't so great in the tests.

They found that P21S car wax was the best.

I DO know that the Zaino process is very, very lengthy...

JRWCOBRA · #6 (**permalink**) 05-22-2002, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cdog
There have been some independent tests done and Zaino wasn't so great in the tests.

They found that P21S car wax was the best.

I DO know that the Zaino process is very, very lengthy...

cdog where do you find p21s car wax, would like to give it a try. Thanks Jim

427sharpe · #7 (**permalink**) 05-22-2002, 08:32 PM

Meguiars #26 liquid wax, with a shot of #7 (poly seal) every now and then. If something evil happens tp your paint, your can use the Micro Finish Swirl Remover to excellent effect. With all of the talk of what wax is primo, etc., fact is most of the winners @ Pebble Beach use plain old Meguiars..and they buy it themselves!

hound dog · #8 (**permalink**) 05-22-2002, 09:16 PM

Doesn't anyone use Mother's California Gold anymore? I still kind of like the stuff myself

h dog

Jeff Frigo · #9 (**permalink**) 05-22-2002, 09:46 PM

Chas:

I thought I was the only person that knew about Malm's. I've been using it for years. Keep using it, it is the best $hit in the world.

Malm's

dexter · #10 (**permalink**) 05-22-2002, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cdog I DO know that the Zaino process is very, very lengthy...

First off, I'll admit to being a Zaino convert. I use it on 3 cars & will use it on the cobra when it arrives next month.

I haven't found the process to be that lengthy and I think it's a lot easier to put on & polish off than a paste wax. I've got a somewhat bad back that makes bending down low for any extended period of time on the car fairly painful and the zaino is fast enough to put on and off that it's only about a 1 beer back ache.

I've seen the tests where the shine from a really good paste show wax with a lot of carnuba in it is compared to zaino and, while it's matter of personal preference, when I look closely at the pics, it's pretty close. The thing I like about zaino versus a carnuba wax is that it lasts for so long. Most waxes are essentially gone within a couple of weeks of fairly steady driving and/or a few washes (even with a good car wash detergent). The zaino seems to stay on for months.

But everyone should check out those tests and make their own decision. The zaino seems right for me.

sfry · #11 (**permalink**) 05-22-2002, 10:30 PM

Has anybody tried the product by PRO. It is called Pro Gold. I have found it to be very effective.

SFRY

renaissance man · #12 (**permalink**) 05-23-2002, 06:29 AM

Zaino.

No buffing, no removing the 1st coat sealer at all. Touchup spray is a breeze. Because of it's anti-static properties (Zaino is not a wax but more of a polish) your "meatballs" will come off but then again the trade is no dust either. Buy it. You won't be sorry.

luc · #13 (**permalink**) 05-23-2002, 08:33 AM

I don't know if it is available in the USA, but here in Europe the best wax is from AUTOGLYM ! - Advised by :
Jaguar, Aston Martin, Rolls Royce, TVR.

It's not because we sell this product for over 10 years, but IT SIPMLY IS THE BEST on the market.

renaissance man · #14 (**permalink**) 05-23-2002, 09:29 AM

Luc,

Does it contain wax? One thing about wax is it attracts dust like a magenet. No offense, that is the major advantage to Zaino that those of us who use it have found.
Cheers,

luc · #15 (**permalink**) 05-23-2002, 10:21 AM

Dave,
Autoglym polish is petroleum based - When cleaning the car with it, it leaves absolutely no white dust. Very shiny finish!

cdog · #16 (**permalink**) 06-03-2002, 04:57 PM

The "wax test" was at thewaxtest.org I think... It is now down, saying they are doing wax test 2002 which should be out later this year....Wish I would have saved the results. P21S wax was found to be the best. You can get it at autodetail.com

I think that Autoglym is basically a NuFinish type product...Nothing wrong with that but some purists want actual carnuba.

TButtrick · #17 (**permalink**) 06-05-2002, 04:50 AM

Here's another alternative. I've never tried the Zaino product but I just purchased Zymol carb wax for my new paint. Put it on and wipe it off before it drys. No white dust and it's AMAZING. Buy their microfiber cloth to remove the wax.

http://www.zymol.com/

CobraEd · #18 (**permalink**) 06-05-2002, 06:11 AM

Meguires Gold Class is by far the best I have used. It is in a class by itself. I spent a lot on Zainos, but like the shine, feel, protection and over penetration of the Meguires Gold Class way better. It actually soaks into the clear coat. It is amazing.

Here is the info from their weeb site:

The Meguiar family has been making quality surface care products since 1901...and our elite Gold Class line consists only of cutting-edge products that deliver exceptional results. When we first introduced Gold Class Car Wax, we said it was the most reflective car wax in Meguiar's long history. Now, after demanding car lovers have tried it on a wide array of cars in a wide array of conditions...Gold Class has truly "wowed" them and their friends. It has set a new standard for exceptional quality. Regardless of what paint you have, this wax will dramatically darken the color, bring out the full richness of the paint and create clear, sharp reflections unlike anything you've ever experienced. It also glides on and off so easily that customers tell us they are waxing more often.

Ed