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Old 11-08-2002, 10:14 AM
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Unhappy Banged-up Oil Pan

My oil pan hits whenever I go over a bump. I now have a small hole. Is it possible to cut down the pan or change it out to something more shallow? Motor 351 w
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Old 11-08-2002, 10:34 AM
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I have a sort of T-shaped road race pan on my 351 and have never had a problem except once when I drove very slowly over a what was supposed to be a speed bump but was a small mountain in disguise. I scraped the paint off the left edge but that was all. This pan dosn't hang down as far as a stock type does. Hope this helpsand I am sure some of the guys can give you a name and number for a pan that will work.
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Old 11-08-2002, 10:52 AM
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I had the same problem. So I pulled off the pan & welded 3 ea.
1/4 inch x 2 inch metal strips the length of the pan. This doesn't stop me from hitting but my pan doesn't get damaged. Jay
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Old 11-08-2002, 11:15 AM
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armando makes a gt40 pan that is shorter than most of the pans available. Here are some pictures of it beside a canton. It is over 1.5" shorter. Total height is roughly 6.5"

http://www.cobralads.com/enginetools/MVC-739S.JPG.html
http://www.cobralads.com/enginetools/MVC-741S.JPG.html

Here are a few more pics from another owner
http://www.ffcobra.com/cgi-bin/ultim...c;f=1;t=002647

Here is Armando's site
http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/flats/1624/
http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/flats/1624/race.html
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My car has a bash bar welded to the frame in front of the pan to protect the 8 qt Canton unit. The bar has a few marks on it, but the pan is spotless.

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Old 11-08-2002, 12:40 PM
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What's the depth of your current pan, that's what you need to compare between pans before buying a new one. Measured from the pan rails to the lowest point. Your oil pan hits, but your bellhousing doesn't?
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Good point Mr.Fixit

I cut the flange off of the bottom of my Lakewood bellhousing since it hung down about 1" to 1 1/2" lower than the bottom of the bellhousing itself. I was told that one Cobra owner with a Lakewood bellhousing didn't remove that flange and hit a man hole. Not nice. By the way, I don't have a problem with my oil pan rubbing. I used one from Ford Motorsport.

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I noticed that the armando pan has a full length sump, no clearance for cars that may be unfortuate enough to have a crossmember under the oil pan. Just something to check before writing the check. Depends on you chassis. I gave away an old chevy LS-7 ol pan for that reason. The front end of the pan was much shallower than the sump, unfortunately, not shallow enough. The motor sat down on the oil pan 1/4" before the holes in the motor mount cross bolts were lined up. The pan that replaced it was a milodon that had a wide sump, and one side touched a header primary tube, alas. I had to put a stock pan back on and clearance the inside of the pan for the full screen windage tray. That was when I was younger, and my father didn't understand why I had to put the motor in and out so many times before firing it up.
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I built a skid plate to protect the bellhousing, hits without it. Will try cutting the flange, thanks. No cross member, backbone chassis. I notice the sump hangs low. Is it possible to put in a shorter sump? Current pan depth about 7 1/2.
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Try adjusting your coil-overs to raise the front end 1" - 1 1/2". You want 5" - 7" clearance from road to oil pan. Increase spring stiffness if necessary so a bump doesn't make suspension bounce as much. Crank another click or two of stiffness into your shocks.

Lastly, your oil pan isn't the lowest point under your car, your bellhousing is. If your bellhousing starts hitting concrete, the flywheel ring gear will go and your starter won't engage properly to start the motor.

Need to get the reptile a little further up off the ground.
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If your bellhousing takes a good whack, it can ruin the parallality of mating surfaces. Then your tranny can get hard to shift, or worse case scenario, break your tranny due to severe misalignment.
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Old Mexico,

I've been to Mazatlan - lots of uneven pavement due to the heat!

Measure your existing pan and compare it to one of the "T" designs like Canton makes.

I gained an inch of clearance. Remember, you will need a new oil pick-up also.

Canton 351 W Front Sump Pans
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Thanks wadesdad, jack 21, Mr, fixit

I'll check the Canton site. My shocks have no more adjustment. Thinking of replacing them with something to give me more clearence. Any suggestions? As soon as I get another pan, I;ll check alignment of the tranny. Thanks for the heads up. Man I don;t know what I'|d do without this site. Everyone is so helpful. Thanks guys. If you have anymore ideas please send them. I read the forum everyday.
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OldMexico,

I am not familiar with your kit and front suspension.
Send me an e-mail. I will send you a picture of my front suspension to see if something similar might help you.

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