Double remote oil filter unit

hcollado · #1 (**permalink**) 12-03-2002, 11:46 PM

I am switching from a single to a double remote oil filter unit. Why? Because I got it cheap and it adds to the testosterone level of the car.

Mr. Gasket makes it. It appears that they work independent of each other.

I have seen them installed but I cannot remember seeing plumbing from one filter to the next.

Do I have to run a line from the left filter to the right one?

This seems odd.

Hector

Roscoe · #2 (**permalink**) 12-04-2002, 07:14 AM

Hector,
The unit has outlets/inlets on both sides so you can set it up a variety of ways. You can have both going into one side or
one going in one side and out the other. Just plug up the ones you don't use. Just make sure you have the 'in' and the 'out' plumbed correctly.

Roscoe

hcollado · #3 (**permalink**) 12-04-2002, 08:09 AM

Roscoe,

Wow, lots of toys under your hood. The unit I have looks identical to the one you are using. However, if I follow the indicated "In / Out" markings, it's going to bring the oil into the filter from the side and not the center. I thought the oil has to come in to the filter from the center hole and it exits filtered thru the perimeter holes?

By the way, my unit was plugged in the middle. I just drilled the plugs out and now I can see that it will work, but I want to get the plumbing right.

Thanks for your help.

Hector

Roscoe · #4 (**permalink**) 12-04-2002, 08:26 AM

Hector,
Just follow the 'in' and 'out' and you won't go wrong. One warning, and many will verify this. Take the Mr. Gasket remote filter block off (the piece that goes on the engine) and THROW IT AWAY NOW!

Pick up a Mocal or Canton Racing billet block off plate. Cost is around 40 bucks. I know personally of one guy who siezed his engine due to one of those cheap block offs.

Sources
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com
http://www.racerpartswholesale.com
http://www.cantonracingproducts.com/...te_filter.html

Roscoe

agro1 · #5 (**permalink**) 12-04-2002, 09:11 AM

Roscoe - Are those old "build" photos ?? Was just wondering how you manage to keep all those goodies so clean...

Roscoe · #6 (**permalink**) 12-04-2002, 09:15 AM

The bottom pic is new. I re-routed the oil lines when I put in the cooler. I also run AN lines for the radiator, top and bottom, and a remote breather off the valve cover. It looks cleaner than usual because I just got done (month ago) pulling heads and intake. Had the whole engine apart.
Roscoe

Ron61 · #7 (**permalink**) 12-04-2002, 09:45 AM

Roscoe,

Is there any way you could put a picture of the block on your motor where you took the oil line out to the remote filter on here for me to see ? I have been thinking about trying something and I would like to see a setup like you have as no one around here has that type. I want to have my oil cooler still working and have gotten all kinds of answers about what type block to use on the motor where the regular oil filter normally goes.

Thanks,

Roscoe · #8 (**permalink**) 12-04-2002, 09:57 AM

I don't have a pic Ron but what exactly are you looking for. Maybe I could explain it? The billet blockoff above is a swivel and can be set in any position.
Roscoe

wilf leek · #9 (**permalink**) 12-04-2002, 10:39 AM

Hector, just spotted this thread and had to input my 2 cs, because I think you have a misconception that could cost you your engine.

Normal oil flow through an oil filter is into the filter (i.e.feed from the engine oil pump) into the "ring" of little circular holes, and out of the filter (i.e. to the bearings etc of the engine) from the central hole. (the threaded part via which the filter screws onto the block).

More than one engine has been lost because of folks getting this wrong. The anti-drain back valve in the filter is a one-way valve, you have to get the direction of flow correct else your engine could, under certain circumstances, be showing healthy oil pressure on a guage, yet actually be receiving little or no oil flow at all to the bearings.

Looking onto the oil filter mounting pad on the side of the block, oil comes from the pump from the little hole in the "side", goes back into the engine through the bigger, central hole.
Trace out the entire oil system for your car, check that it is correct before you fire her up.

HTH

Ron61 · #10 (**permalink**) 12-04-2002, 12:56 PM

Roscoe,

Is that block off you put the picture of just a plug that screws in where the oil filter would normally go if you used it as a sandwich and your oil cooler lines come out the side ? It is kind of dark but I think I can see the two holes in the side of it and that is what I am looking for. Right now I have a similar unit but I have a short oil filter screwed onto it and the cooler lines come in the side. I want to put a remote filter on but around here we don't have a lot of places to go look at things. I have a place to mount the remote filter unit but I want to route my cooler lines through it similar to yours. However some of the people I have talked to keep telling me I can't do it that way and Ican't seewhy I can't. Your's obviously works.

Thanks,

Ron

Roscoe · #11 (**permalink**) 12-04-2002, 01:04 PM

Ron,
That block off is a 'plug' with the two ports on the side. Maybe you can copy the pic to a program and lighten it up.

Here's what I have on my engine:

Canton blockoff as above
line running to remote dual filter
outlet from filter running to oil thermostat
from the thermostat to the cooler
From the cooler back through the thermostat
from there to a check valve and a "T"
through the check valve and the "T" back to the engine.
out of the 'T' is a line to the solinoid valve and to the Accusump

Works fine for me. All -AN 10 lines. 70-75 lbs pressure on start, 40-55 at warm idle. I have a Milodon 'T' road race pan. Takes about 11 quarts to fill and about 9 to do an oil change.

Roscoe

Ron61 · #12 (**permalink**) 12-04-2002, 01:09 PM

Roscoe,

Thanks a lot. You are a lifesaver. I don't have an acusump but the rest of what you show and said is almost identical to what I was wanting to do. I went to the canton site and looked at that unit and I think that is the one I will go with. Boy do I love this club. There is always someone around willing to help idiots like me.

Ron

Roscoe · #13 (**permalink**) 12-04-2002, 01:35 PM

Ron,
Glad to be of help. Don't forget the thermostat.
Roscoe

Sizzler · #14 (**permalink**) 12-04-2002, 01:57 PM

you want a boss 302 (or 429 fits too) oil filter adapter for an engine that came with an oil cooler (69 or 70, possibly other years for the 429) which will have the necessary outlets to feed remote filters/coolers/whatever.

These aren't all that rare; you can usually find one on ebay.

Just an idea.

hcollado · #15 (**permalink**) 12-04-2002, 02:43 PM

Wilf,

Thanks for the heads up. I figurted it out. It's a good thing to see how much information it can be gotten here and from people that know their stuff. Thanks again.

Hector

Mr.Fixit · #16 (**permalink**) 12-04-2002, 03:33 PM

Why run your oil through two filters of the same mesh size right after one another? The second filter seems to be redundant, and an unneccessary restriction. Is there any good reason to use dual filters?

Roscoe · #17 (**permalink**) 12-04-2002, 03:36 PM

Mr. Fixit,

Actually they are not set up in series but in parallel. Oil flows into both filters at the same time.

But besides all that they look great and, I was told, add 5 hp expecially if they are polished!!

Roscoe

Mr.Fixit · #18 (**permalink**) 12-04-2002, 04:20 PM

Oh heck, they're parallel, that's cool. Shoud have guessed that.

hcollado · #19 (**permalink**) 12-04-2002, 04:31 PM

Absolutely correct. They run in parallel, and like I said earlier, it adds to the testosterone level.

Roscoe, I thought it added 7 HP. Maybe my unit is bigger than yours.

Hector

Sizzler · #20 (**permalink**) 12-04-2002, 04:34 PM

here's a current auction for an adapter you could use (per my earlier post):

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1874067028

Love auctions like this. The part is mislabled (428SCJ when it should be 429). The seller doesn't really know what it is, just is going by what he vaguely heard. Wonder if the buyer will know what it is, or not?