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02-09-2003, 09:08 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Southern Connecticut,
CT
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF - 351W, 944 non-turbo
Posts: 2,105
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Doug Axelrod's Dyno Chart??
I was recently looking at a Dyno Chart in the random gallery produced by Doug Axelrod. Can anyone out there explain to me how the torque and HP lines cross at 4,300 RPM?
I'm no Bob Putnam, but I'm pretty sure that the HP /
torque lines by definition cross at 5,252 RPM.
Doug, is it time to find another dyno shop?
Bob
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02-09-2003, 02:27 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Kennett Square, PA, USA,
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Bob,
You are correct. I have been told many times that the following imformation is true. Always!
HP = 25% of torque @ 1,300 RPMS
HP = 50% of torque @ 2,600 RPMS
HP = 75% of torque @ 3,900 RPMS
HP = 100% of torque @ 5,252 RPMS
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02-09-2003, 03:01 PM
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Gentlemen (and I give you benefit of the doubt here rather than assuming that you're just being mean-spirited):
Before you impugn my (superb) engine builder's competencies, I suggest you read the axes on the graph. I'd be happy to provide a tabular form, if you require.
NB: This engine is no more, as I replaced the cam with a hydraulic roller cam of very similar cut. Runs slightly stronger and sounds more percussive. I suspect the power is quite similar, but have no interest in disinterring the motor for another stand test.
Doug
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02-09-2003, 03:12 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2001
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Hey Doug:
I guess I'm missing something! What I do know is that (using english units) HP = (Torque * RPM) / 5252. That is not my personal formula, that's the way it's done.
Based on this formula the HP line will always be below the torque line when RPM is below 5,252, and above the torque line when the RPM is above 5,252.
I'm not giving you or your engine builder a hard time. Please explain to me the part I have missed.
Bob
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02-09-2003, 06:25 PM
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Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Las Vegas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Roadster; 351W
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Sometimes in order to better accomodate the information, the axis are different. For example, the HP axis will range from 200 - 500 and TQ axis will range from 300 - 600. Hence, HP and TQ actually do intersect at the proper point, but not in such an altered presentation. I have not seen this particuar dyno graph, but many like the one you have described. Study the axis and you should see this is apparent.
Last edited by Curt C.; 02-09-2003 at 06:28 PM..
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02-09-2003, 06:54 PM
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Yup,,,,What Curt C. said! It all depends on the format you use to DISPLAY or GRAPH the data.
Doug,,,,LOL,,,a "superb" response.
Ernie
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02-09-2003, 06:58 PM
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Curt:
It's clear to me now! The numbers are a little small on my screen.
Thanks, bob
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