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Old 09-06-2003, 09:30 PM
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Default low profile floor jack?

My Shell Valley Cobra is so low to the ground. Like 3 7/8" to the frame. A LOT less to the bottom of the oil pan. Any suggestions on a low profile floor jack I can get under the side pipes?


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Old 09-06-2003, 09:38 PM
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Dwight, I agree but haven't found a coil over assembly that will work yet. Suggestions?
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Harbor Freight has a nice aluminum jack under $200.00
It has a roller in the front instead of wheels. It is very nice. If that does NOT fit under YOUR car, maybe you SHOULD raise it.

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AC Hydraulics makes low profile jacks. I think the model is DK20 or something like that and has a minimum height of 3.1 inches. They are on the web but are a British Co. but you can get them from: www.asedeals.com

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ABOUT A MONTH AGO I TALKED TO DV PARTNER, JAY AND HE SET ME UP WITH A SET OF COILOVERS FOR THE FRONT OF MY LONE STAR. I THINK HE MAY BE ABLE TO HELP YOU. I TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE BEFORE I EMAIL DV. THEY WERE THE ONLY ONES WHO HAD GOOD ANSWERS. OH, YES, THE NEW COILOVERS FIXED MY RIDE!
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PS. HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE GUYS AT SHELL VALLEY. WE HAVE A FRIEND WHO HAS BUILD 3 SHELL VALLEY'S. HE GETS VERY GOOD SERVICE FROM THEM!
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My 3 1/2 ton jack from Costco has a 4" minimum height. It's a nice solid piece of equipment for $70
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Dwight, I just emailed Jay. I last talked with SV a couple of years ago about it. Since then I took the car to a "professional" to solve things like this and he did a pretty poor job. I went and took it back unfinished after two years.
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[b]AC Hydraulics makes low profile jacks. I think the model is DK20 or something like that and has a minimum height of 3.1 inches.
I've got one of these. Expensive but a very very nice jack.
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I also have the AC jack and it works well. The model you are probably interested in is the DK13HLQ. It is a low profile, high lift jack which will fit under your Cobra with no problem. Its only drawback is that its rated at 2600 lb rather than 4000. However (and this is based on experience) the DK20HLQ model will not fit under the Cobra. In fact, it probably won't fit under your standard passenger car. The local rep here in Mesa told me that model is designed primarily for pickkups and SUVs. As Dexter says, it's a little pricey but is a nice jack.
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I was using a scissor jack as it had the lower clearence. While letting the jack down the jack tipped over the price of the Cat-Scan and stiches it took to have my ear reattached to my head are minor to what a nice jack will cost you. The next week I purchased the one from Harbor Freight it is the one thing my wife has never complained about. There is not a day that does not go bye that I can still feel it. Purchase a nice jack.


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Exclamation Get the Harbor Freight Jack

I was just in the store, jack on sale for $149. or order on line.
www.harborfreight.com
I think I paid $179. for mine.
Aluminum - light weight 30# - even comes in assorted colors.
You won't go wrong.
You can always drive up on some 2x wood material - that will give you another 1&1/2" of clearance. Better yet, while at Harbor Freight, buy some drive up ramps. Problem solved

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as per Turk and Terry Lee...The Harbor Freight works just fine.
Think I paid $150. for it a year or so ago....
With that jack and a Kwiklift, my first oil change only cost me $1,500. bucks...
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ACC427US,

Your post notes 3 7/8" clearance to the bottom of the frame, which I'm assuming is to the bottom of the 2x4 main frame. Is the clearance the same towards the front as in the rear?
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I guess my "calibrated eye" needs recalibration. The front frame (both sides) is 2" to the ground and the rear is 5" on the left and about 5.5 on the right. I suspect I might need air in the left rear.



Does that help?

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ACC427US,

That's low!!! Is there a chance that you have a set of Mustang II 2" dropped spindles installed? I'm running the same front tires, 235/60/15, and the distance from the ground to the bottom of the spindle flat where it mounts to the tie-rod measures around 11 1/4". If you have dropped spindles then this would be closer to 9 1/4".

For your rear height, also check your coil-overs, since an adjustment on the spring compression will make a difference in the ride height.

Drop a post back with what you find.
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It measures about 11" to the spindle so I'm assuming I do not have dropped spindles. However, I'm running a 427SO so they are a bit taller and lower than a smaller block.
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The 427 would come into play if you were measuring from the pan to the floor, but the 2" frame to floor measurement is dependant on the suspension geometry . The older SV’s used different length shocks in the front versus the back, whereas the new chassis uses the same shock and a different spring rate. Is there a chance the shocks were switched, which would place the lower spring rate in the front?

Can you estimate the front shock length, mount-to-mount, as the vehicle is sitting with the weight on it? Also how much is the spring compressed with the spring nut (how many inches of thread are showing below the nut)?
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I've defintely got the older chassis. I looked at the springs before they were put on. Talked with SV a few times about it. I seem to recall that there was a blue tab or somthing on two of the springs to denote the rear.

According to Dana my shocks have a length of 10.25" compressed and 13.25 extended.
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I also have the AC jack and it works well. The model you are probably interested in is the DK13HLQ. It is a low profile, high lift jack which will fit under your Cobra with no problem. Its only drawback is that its rated at 2600 lb rather than 4000.
Yep, actually, the 13 is the one I have, not the 20. I can even slide it under the jacking points on my Corvette without driving up on wooden blocks.
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