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Old 01-29-2004, 07:10 PM
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Default carb and intake recommendation please

With the millions of options in carburetors and intake manifolds out there I cant decide (nor have the experience as the possible thousands of mechanics hot rod guru’s that might read this thread) on what to go with. I’m looking for a carb and intake to convert from EFI for 302 that is currently being pulled from a 91 GT , any recommendations with details on why you like the set-up your recommending would be great. Obviously price is a consideration (the most performance for the buck kind of thing).
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If it were me, I'd retain the EFI. Talk to Wade Chamberlain at Capitalareacobraclub.com, or the FFR oriented cobraforum.com.

That being said, if you go carbureted:

The Edelbrock Performer RPM is hard to beat

Holley has a Street 600 CFM, vac secondary, #1850 that for a stock cam 5.0 is also hard to beat.

Still, a 10 second "Street" Cobra that gets 22 MPG cruise using the stock electronics is haard to beat.

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why do you think its better to stay with fuel injection?
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Big Rob, if you decide to go carb, I would seriously consider Barry Grant. A number of the local Cobra guys here in the Atlanta area (including myself) have tossed their Holly and Edelbrock carbs and replaced them with BGs. As far as intake, it shouldn't be hard to match one of the Edelbrocks with your engine configuration and desired RPM/torque preference.
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The car just runs better with the EFI. Most of the FFR'ss in CACC (about half the fleet) retain the stock EFI's. Unfortunately, I can't speak from personal experience, but only report what I've seen and what the trend seems to be.

For the "How To", our EFI Guru is Wade Chamberlain. He's building his second FFR. His first, a stock motor car with a Vortec will run 10's, spin the tires at will, and get 22 MPG cruising.

Go over to capitalareacobraclub.com and ask him.

If carb, agree with the above. Go Demon, not Holley. I had a Holley 1850 on a more or less stock 302 that ran great. Also had a Holley 4778 on a fairly tweaked 351W and never could get it set up. Switched to a Speed Demon ald motor ran great. But follow BG advice on which Demon to get. Metering is different depending on camshaft duration.

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What you want your car to drive like and look like plays in here, for most of us it's a big boy's toy.

EFI? Better power, better fuel mileage, lower maintenance, better driveability and meets emission requirements. I see you're in FL, but we've already had emission tests once, and it may come back one day. The emissions thing also lets you sell it in a state that sniffs.

Carb? The look, the feel, the tinkering (if that's what you like), the aroma of 93 octane. You'll have to try to get it titled in Fl as a'65 to make it resellable in most states, do some searches on the title subject before you go to the DMV.

If you ask "what's a good carb set up?" on this forum or any other forum you'll probably get so many different answers that you'll be totally confused.
What do want your car to do? How will you drive it? What do you want it to look like? What kind of money do you want to spend?

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has anyone seen or heard of a fuel injection setup that looks like a weber carb setup.
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Try here:
http://www.verycoolparts.com/Stack.htm

or here:
http://www.twminduction.com/
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id like to build a weekend driver around 300-350 hp tops. this is my first major hot rod (other than a 94 gt with a cam and tfs intake, if that counts) so i want to keep things not too complicated, but i do enjoy the weekend tampering (even though my wife doesn't ) i have about 20k i want to spend and that needs to include the 12000 for the kit and 900 for shipping so iguess i got about 7k to work with on the mechanics.
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oh and one more thing i really liked the stage 1 cam from trick flow systems that i had in my 94 GT. so im thinking of going with same cam again. unless some one can recommend somthing better. i like the classic look of the carb in the cobra i guess thats why im so bent on going that route.
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OK, now we got something to work with...no Webers or stack injection for sure, as pretty as they are.

With your budget numbers you'll be pretty much stock. That's not a bad thing, I drove mine that way for several months while I built my stroker. A stock 5.0 with a T5 in an FFR is great fun and all the power you need. (I didn't say want, I said need)
3.55 or 3.73 gears are even more fun.

Since you already know the cam you want the rest is pretty easy.
My personal recommendations:

1) Keep the stock heads for now and put your funds into building
the car.
2) An Edelbrock Performer or Weiand Stealth intake. Stay away
from air gaps and high risers for a stock motor. Buy an intake
that has a heat riser under the carb for street driveability.
3) A smallish carb, 600 cfm max, electric choke, vacuum
secondaries. You've got lots of choices here, with prices
fairly competitive. I ran an Edel performer 600 right out of
the box on mine, always ran perfect. Very simple carb.
4) Stock oil pan, pickup and pump.
5) Stock flywheel and clutch. The stock clutch protects the T5
from excessive torque and it's all you need in a light car.
6) Stock OEM headers. I'll get flamed here, but the OEM headers
actually make more horsepower and torque than aftermarket
headers on a basically stock motor.
7) A reman Duraspark distributer and new module with the
blue grommet from any of the auto parts stores. Right here
you must be certain you have a STEEL gear on the dist..
If you're not certain about the gear that's on your reman dist,
buy an aftermarket STEEL gear and replace it. A street type
coil will be fine, you won't need a 50,000 volt blaster thingy.
I ran the donor EFI coil on mine for a long time, I only replaced
it because it was fugly, it worked fine.
With the street coil you can run an OEM cap, rotor and plug
wires. BTW, the TFI dist in the '91 has a steel gear but the
gear won't fit a Duraspark.

Many of these items can be bought used from the classifieds on this forum, corral.net, ffcobra.com and ebay.
The folks on corral.net have a huge turnover of year-old parts whenever the next latest-greatest part hits the magazines.

Build your car and get it on the street before you start planning upgrades. Get some "seat time", these little cars can be a handfull until you get used to them, even with a stock 5.0.

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thanks for the fantastic input ED. im sure i will have lots more questions in the near future, so thanks again to everyone in advance.
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has anyone seen or heard of a fuel injection setup that looks like a weber carb setup.
We install Momar Fuel Injection Systems
www.Momarefi.com

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