SUPPORT OUR SPONSOR

Go Back   Club Cobra > Club Cobra Tech Areas > Shop Talk

Welcome to Club Cobra!  The World's largest non biased Shelby Cobra related site!

  •  » Representation from nearly all Cobra/Daytona/GT40 manufacturers
  •  » Help from all over the world for your questions
  •  » Build logs for you and all members
  •  » Blogs
  •  » Image Gallery
  •  » Many thousands of members and nearly 1 million posts! 

YES! I want to register an account for free right now!  p.s.: For registered members this ad will NOT show

Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Main Menu
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
Keith Craft Racing
Keith Craft Racing
MMG Superformance
January 2025
S M T W T F S
      1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31  

Kirkham Motorsports

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 02-10-2004, 10:21 PM
big_rob's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: debary, FL
Cobra Make, Engine: FFR kit in the works
Posts: 52
Send a message via Yahoo to big_rob
Not Ranked     
Default gasket removal tips

I’m changing from EFI to carb on this 302. i just removed the lower intake manifold and peeled of the old gasket left on the heads, but it left lots of residue behind is there an easy and safe way clean it with out the old gasket material falling into the heads (I don’t want to have to remove them)
and if you cant tell this is my first ever getting this involved in an engine so please be patient with me.
thanks
Big Rob The rookie
Attached Images
 
__________________
LITE'EM UP
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 02-10-2004, 10:40 PM
Rick Parker's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: California, Ca
Cobra Make, Engine: NAF 289 Slabside Early Comp Car with 289 Webers and all the goodies. Cancelling the efforts of several Priuses
Posts: 6,592
Not Ranked     
Default

Stick a crumled up paper towell into each of the intake ports, roll up a rag until it is about 1" in diameter and the length of the head. Lay it under the openings to prevent pieces of the gasket from falling into the area near the pushrods & lifters, carefully scrape the remnants of the gasket off. Then carefully remove the paper towels, collecting the small gasket pieces as you pull out each towel. Then use a hose from a vacuum ti suck any remnants out of the ports.

Good luck

Rick
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 02-10-2004, 10:44 PM
big_rob's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: debary, FL
Cobra Make, Engine: FFR kit in the works
Posts: 52
Send a message via Yahoo to big_rob
Not Ranked     
Default

what should i use to scrape it with i was using a putty knife but im afraid of scratching the heads
__________________
LITE'EM UP
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 02-10-2004, 10:46 PM
big_rob's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: debary, FL
Cobra Make, Engine: FFR kit in the works
Posts: 52
Send a message via Yahoo to big_rob
Not Ranked     
Default

and also whats the best way to clean the rust off the heads
__________________
LITE'EM UP
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 02-11-2004, 04:18 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: coast of maine, me
Cobra Make, Engine: Antique & Collectible 351 windsor bored and stroked tko tremec
Posts: 209
Not Ranked     
Default

also u can use a gasket remover aerosal can this can be purchased at any parts store. works great spray it on and let it set for a few minutes and old gasket s will come right off. good luck Neil in Maine
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 02-11-2004, 06:41 AM
speed220mph's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Hickory, NC
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 427SC w/427so, ERA GT #2002
Posts: 1,106
Not Ranked     
Default

Big Rob: First, do like Rick says and stuff the ports with rags or shop towels, but don't overlook any when you pull them out. And to prevent junk from landing in the lifter area, lay out shop towels to catch the junk when it falls.

Forget using a putty knife except for doing detail work. Use a dedicated gasket scraper . . . unless your heads are aluminum. Then you'll have to go another route. Rotary plastic bristle brushes used in a drill motor work great for this. Or, use a plastic gasket scraper.

As for cast-iron heads, use the steel gasket scraper. Be careful if you have to sharpen it and don't make the mistake made by a lot of people. The scraper should not have a sharp edge. Rather, the edge should be chamfered, one large ground edge, then turn over the scraper and chamfer the other edge. Looking from the end of the scraper, it should look like a V with one long leg and the other very short. And don't hollow grind the edges, but put a slight radius on them . . . both sides. This will keep the scraper from digging in. If you look at a new scraper, you'll see what I mean.

Once you're finished with both heads, carefully pull out the "plugs" from the ports, allowing the junk to fall into the lifer valley, then lift out the shop towels with the junk and you're done.

I hope you can follow what I said. There's no easy way to remove gasket material, just easier.
__________________
Tom

"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough HORSEPOWER." Mark Donohue
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 02-11-2004, 07:41 AM
mickmate's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Holderness, NH, US of A, NH
Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4772 old iron FE
Posts: 5,499
Not Ranked     
Default

Cookies.....1/4" air tool with a 2" roloc abrasive disc (available in different grades). Cover and plug what you can, spray the dust from the gasket removal everywhere and clean and vacuum afterwards!
__________________
mickmate
http://www.actoncustom.com/
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 02-11-2004, 07:56 AM
trularin's Avatar
Member of the north
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: May 2003
Cobra Make, Engine: A Cobra
Posts: 11,207
Not Ranked     
Default

Rick Parker's setup is very good. I use rags and fill all the holes and then use a wire brush on a die grinder. Works great and will not fork this up.

You can grab a die grinder from Northern tool or Harbor freight for about $20.00.
__________________
I'm a writer, feed the artist and buy a book.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 02-11-2004, 08:46 AM
MIKE SCHULZ's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: COMOX, B.C
Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary 427 CCX 3627 ,TKO 600 RR,TWM 58mm DFI
Posts: 94
Not Ranked     
Default

People - PEOPLE!,....Please,The cavemen used scrapers and wire brushes. Try the 1/4" Diegrinder with the ROLOC wheel!,Slick as butter........Pretty soon you will be using it to shine your wifes silverware!!....It works THAT good!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 02-11-2004, 08:50 AM
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 15,712
Not Ranked     
Default

I wouldn't worry about "scratching" the heads. They are iron after all and it would be extremely difficult to put any scratches on the surface that the new gasket couldn't handle.

Scrape away,,,, unless you got one of them fancy Roloc wheel thingies.

Ernie
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 02-11-2004, 09:44 AM
speed220mph's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Hickory, NC
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 427SC w/427so, ERA GT #2002
Posts: 1,106
Not Ranked     
Default

Roloc wheel thingy, that's it!
__________________
Tom

"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough HORSEPOWER." Mark Donohue
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 02-11-2004, 09:22 PM
big_rob's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: debary, FL
Cobra Make, Engine: FFR kit in the works
Posts: 52
Send a message via Yahoo to big_rob
Not Ranked     
Default

where can i find a rolof wheel thingy i got the grinder just need the thingy
__________________
LITE'EM UP
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 02-11-2004, 11:08 PM
xlr8or's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: San Diego, CA
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 2,979
Not Ranked     
Default

Do as Rick suggested with the stuffing of paper towels and rags for the lifter valley. Use the wire wheel on a drill or die grinder. If you have a helper have them hold the hose on the shop vac there as you clean. When done vacuum up any loose stuff and then keep it near by when pulling the towels and rags. Works like a charm and you can have both heads done in 20 minutes start to finish.
__________________
Remember, It's never too early to start beefing up your obituary.
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 02-12-2004, 07:12 AM
Banned
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Yorba Linda, CA
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF w/392CI stroker
Posts: 3,293
Not Ranked     
Default

http://www.autobarn.net/mmm07480.htm...01&PID=1408109

Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 02-12-2004, 07:13 AM
speed220mph's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Hickory, NC
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 427SC w/427so, ERA GT #2002
Posts: 1,106
Not Ranked     
Default

big_rob: You can get Rolocs at most auto-parts stores such as NAPA. They come in various grits. I suggest you get a coarser one for cast iron and go finer with aluminum.

About using an air tool such as a die grinder, be careful when using a Roloc that the exhaust air doesn't blow a lot of junk into the rocker area. That's why a bulkier drill motor might be best when working on your assembled engine.

Use a vacuum as suggested, but just be careful not to suck up a rag or shop towel while you're at it.
__________________
Tom

"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough HORSEPOWER." Mark Donohue
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 02-12-2004, 09:43 AM
trularin's Avatar
Member of the north
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: May 2003
Cobra Make, Engine: A Cobra
Posts: 11,207
Not Ranked     
Default

Got to love those "thingies." LOL
__________________
I'm a writer, feed the artist and buy a book.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:18 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy