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Old 02-20-2006, 07:31 AM
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Default superformance harness/shoulder belt install

As I understand it there are some predrilled holes and/or some instructions out there regarding the installation of shoulder belts (and maybe the sub) in a Superformance? I feel a slight bump in the rear fabric behind each seat, but other than that see nothing. Is there some sort of article floating around about it?

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Old 02-20-2006, 10:39 AM
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...there are slots cut behind the seats on most SPF's...there were on mine #770. I would assume since your's is a later serial number, they would be on yours, as well.

But..you said "bumps"...do you mean indentations..? I would think any slots would be easy to feel beneath the stuck on carpeting. Why not probe them with a needle...hat pin, or something along those lines. If they're not there, the needle wouldn't go through the fiberglass...if they are, then it would. And no harm to your carpeting. Just an idea..

FYI...there is no slot, hole, whatever for the crotch strap. You'll have to drill one from the bottom of the car. I had to do the same for the passenger side. Remove the seats first...fairly easy to do.

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We started a conversation on this just as the web site crashed. I took some pics to show you where the belts attach to the rear firewall.



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Do the shoulder harnesses come with mounting hardware? What's a good source for the harness? Just got a new SPF, and I'm finishing it, waiting on transmission and a few other things. Thanks.

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Yes, Tom..most of the manufacturers that I'm familiar with include mounting hardware with the harness set. However, that said, you usually have to specify whether you want floor mount, sholder mount, bar mount, etc. And sometime you have to improvise.

Sources include Simpson, which I have...as well as Deist, Sparco, and many others. Google each of those names and you'll find their website or at least someone who sells them. There's lots of options, too...knob releases, lever releases, duckbill releases...Y-mount, floor mount, etc, etc, etc. You'll have some decisions to make before ordering.

Also note that each set is usually custom made...this is because the web material will deteriorate over time with exposure to UV rays, weather, etc. Belts come with tags indicating dates of manufacture. Most govening bodies allow belts no more than five years old...if I recall correctly. If you're not planning on racing your SPF, this should be of little concern to you.
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Thanks Freddie. I'm going racing, but probably not for awhile, so I am looking at using the belts that came with the car for now and just adding shoulder harnesses. Eventually I want to install Simpson cam locks, 5 or 6 point. For now, just a set of shoulder harnesses will do for autocrossing. Finish line seems to have a nice set at a reasonable price. I kind of like the antique lever lock - the first plane I ever flew (T-33) had those belts, so they make me feel young again! (The AF went to camlocks in T-33 eventually.)
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Update - I just got done installing the shoulder portion of some V style Simpson restraints (anti-sub will have to wait). Was pretty easy - the 3" 7/16" bolts worked great. The Simpson upper buckle just barely fit through the back wall, and needed some force to get the bracket far enough in to line up with the hole in the frame. I am not a big guy, so I got away with not removing the rear wheels - but if I had to do it over again, I'd just take em off. The belts seem very sturdy, and with the mounting point given by SPF, it seems like a pretty good setup.

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Where have folks bolted their anti-sub belts? There is one metal band that runs underneath the car, but it might be too narrow to drill a 7/17" hole through and still have it be reasonably strong. Is drilling anywhere the the floor secure enough?

Reading back through the thread I noticed there was some concern of the latch type buckles coming undone. Simpson actually uses a velcro strap on the end of the latch to keep it from coming up.
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