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Old 12-14-2006, 11:54 AM
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Question Accusump users with side oiler need your input

I would like to know where members with a side oiler FE have installed and located there Accusump pre oilers.

I was thinking of hiding the Accusump under the passenger side dash and hoping to run the oil line with a "T" fitting to the oil pressure line. Is this possible?

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Old 12-14-2006, 12:56 PM
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I am not running one on my car but I have seen several locate theirs in front of their water pump on a horizontal bracket extending between the frame rails.

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Old 12-14-2006, 03:03 PM
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Sal,
If you never carry passengers it's probably OK. If you do, think of a container of 200 deg liquid under 40 or more psi with fittings on it that could drip/leak nearly in their laps...
Unless one races on tracks, there's seldom a need for one-I bought and mocked one up 5 years ago and decided against it. The motors been fine on synthetic and starter notor Pre-oiling.
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Old 12-14-2006, 07:22 PM
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Sal,
I found these pictures in the CC gallery, try a search there using Accusump as the search keyword.

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Old 12-14-2006, 08:22 PM
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The motors been fine on synthetic and starter notor Pre-oiling.
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If you don't have a starter notor I can sell you one...
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Old 12-14-2006, 11:14 PM
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I was wonder what that notor thing was!

I was thinking that I could hide it under the dash but if I cannot connect into the pressure line I might have to put it under the bonnet! Thanks for the help so far guys!
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Old 12-15-2006, 07:53 AM
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Mano and Sal,
Manowar you shocked me a bit with feeling the Accusump or other oiling device is not a benefit. Do you not think they are a value or did you just not get around to installing?
I always use a system although not the Accusump brand it does the same things and more. My main belief in unit is the value of pre-pressurizing the engine before each start up. Second benefit although rare to be used is the insurance it will add pressure while killing ignition and fuel pump if oil pressure from engine is lost. We simply add a few pressure switches in the feed line to turn on a big red light and turn off fuel pump and ignition.
I have had 2 people come back to me singing the praises of what they and I think helped save $$ repairs. One was a sheared oil pump drive shaft and second was a broken oil filter fitting. If nothing else the red light was a benefit and know you can do just the red light.
The key to what I use is a true zero leak down solenoid. All the others I tried would leak down all the oil pressure in moments to a couple hours but this one has lasted a couple of months without loosing a pound of pressure. We put one on a motor-coach that sits for many weeks before being started again so was getting dry started before this.





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Old 12-15-2006, 09:15 AM
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Jeff,

On the contrary, I meant to imply the system was not a benefit to me and probably not to many Cobra types who do not open track or autocross.
Cranking the starter briefly without a start and synthetic have worked well for me. The install in an ERA was problematic as I chose to not go on the front crossmember. But my research here and on other sites had led me to believe that this was something my application did not demand and that ended my installation desire.
Warning lights are a good idea with shut-offs if one is so inclined.
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Old 12-15-2006, 09:48 AM
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Manowar,
I got ya. I do agree the grief of any modification and costs are a major consideration. The old "if it aint broke" often makes a lot of sense. All the info available on the net states up to 90 % of wear is caused by starting the engine. The newer syn. oils and I use Lucas additive in addition are much improved over older tachnologies. An ignition kill to delay start up before oil is circulated would be a big help also. The time between start ups is a concern that got me to go the extra cost and time.
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Sal Gerace Sal I have one on my ERA. It is mounted to the frame rail under the car. I have a shield in front to protect it from stone or rocks from racing. I have seen motors saved by the 3 added quarts of oil like mine at R&G this year when the rocker shaft broke and the lifter came out of the bore. The most wear on any motor is on startup, If the auto industries put per oil lubers in the car and trucks, the motor would go 1/2 million miles without any problem and no cars would be getting sold. I run Lucas oil additive in all my cars and truck after doing the test. Let vehicle sit for 3 weeks and then start, lifters and rockers noisey for 5-15 seconds. All the oil has fallen off these parts. Put additive in car and run as per directions and let same truck sit for 3 weeks no noise on startup. I am sure you lose 6-8hp with this product in the motor, but it's a truck for towing not a race motor. I do run Lucas in the cobra also. A peroiler just makes sense. Happy holidays guys Rick Lake
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:22 AM
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Default pre oiler

I was looking into the AMS-oiler and the Canton along with the accusump and Moroso unit. Is anyone running the AMS oiler? It looks like a nice setup without needing to pressuize it.
I also called a Canton tech line and asked about hooking it to the oil pressure guage line but the tech said the 4an size line is too small. I believe a 10an is what they use for the install. So the oil pressure guage line hookup is out of the question.
Rick Lake I'd like to keep it hidden and your frame rail idea is probably the best best.
I am thinking of hooking into the oil galley on the side of the block in my quest to keep this hidden. Has anyone hooked there's up in this way?
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