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01-26-2007, 09:47 PM
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Where did you mount your MSD ignition box
My MSD box is under the hood. Is there any reason for not mounting it out of sight under the dash? I don't think you really need to get to it often, and the engine bay is cluttered enough as it is. Have any of you done this? Has it worked out well for you?
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01-26-2007, 10:08 PM
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We mount our 6 series controllers on the passenger side of the firewall as well as the coil. The coil wire enters the engine bay through a bulkhead connector and keeps the look clean and practical.
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01-26-2007, 10:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vettestr
We mount our 6 series controllers on the passenger side of the firewall as well as the coil. The coil wire enters the engine bay through a bulkhead connector and keeps the look clean and practical.
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Wow, the coil too? I hadn't thought if that. Does it hurt performance to have a coil wire that long? Isn't the coil wire on these systems a propriatary wire, or at least the ends are? I guess I'd have to go to MSD to find one that long, no?
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01-26-2007, 10:38 PM
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No the ends are not MSD only and we use a bulkhead or connector that allows 2 coil wires to be used. Coil to connector then connector to the Distrib. cap. If you place the items in the right place then the 2 wires are not really longer than 1 standard wire.
MSD link because photo did not link http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...0002_747812_-1
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01-26-2007, 10:42 PM
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Under the dash
to keep the fire wall looking less cluttered:
jdog
P.S. I believe they stay cooler under the dash and out of the engine bay.
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01-26-2007, 11:29 PM
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My 6AL is mounted to the bottom of the glove box and can only be seen if you stick your head in the passenger's foot well.
DonC
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01-27-2007, 08:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jdog
to keep the fire wall looking less cluttered:
jdog
P.S. I believe they stay cooler under the dash and out of the engine bay.
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JDog,
It's kinda hard to see - is that red bracket behind the right valve cover on the firewall something you fabricated for the firewall pass through that vettstr linked to? What are you guys using for coil wire? Is it the same as the plug wires you're running? HOw are you running the coil wire from the firewall to the distributor?
Thanks.
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01-27-2007, 08:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vettestr
We mount our 6 series controllers on the passenger side of the firewall as well as the coil. The coil wire enters the engine bay through a bulkhead connector and keeps the look clean and practical.
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Me too.
(Disregard this line as it was added solely to meet the minimum character requirement.)
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01-27-2007, 08:18 AM
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My recommendation would be to mount it under the glove box (provided you have one. If not it is pretty easy to fabricate a mounting plate and bracket. It makes for a more accurate and authentic installation.
Jim
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01-27-2007, 08:38 AM
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Coil and 6AL inside passenger side dash with a bulkhead connector for the coil wire. Made my own coil wires.
Scott
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01-27-2007, 08:46 AM
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That all sounds great, and I'm going to do just what you guys say. I have no glove box, so I'll have to fabricate a bracket to mount the box and coil - no big deal. My question now is, how are you guys running the coil wire from the firewall to the distributor? Obviously you can't just lay the wire on the intake and leave it at that. Are you fabricating some sort of support bolted to the valve cover bolt? How are you doing it to keep it neat and performing well?
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01-27-2007, 09:07 AM
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Keep in mind that some of those guys mounting the coil under the dash are running Chevy engines= You might want to mount the coil up front on the front of the left head
Jerry
(another 767 pilot)
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01-27-2007, 09:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Clayton
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Keep in mind that some of those guys mounting the coil under the dash are running Chevy engines...
Jerry
(another 767 pilot)
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Yes...I cheated.
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01-27-2007, 09:36 AM
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I have mine on top of the tunnel under the dash. Easy to get to. My coil is mounted on the left hand wheel well.
Scott
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01-27-2007, 11:33 AM
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I am running a Chebbie but have run many engine types and still mount the coil on the cockpit side of the firewall. With a front mounted distrib (a Ford) or many others the coil wire from firewall forward is longer than a rear distrib but not an issue or cause for concern.
I believe the coil wire length is a better option than coil exposed to engine heat. This becomes even more of a benefit if running a aftermarket coil as they are either big and bulky or color also in contrast to everything , they could be painted but why bother.
PS.. The red bracket on Jdogs firewall is the xducer for a fuel pressure gauger. Never run fuel via a line or 1/8 hose to the gauger inside the cockpit as it is a BIG fire hazard. Good choice Jdog. Also illegal in all class racing I know of to run gas inside cockpit to a gauger.
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01-27-2007, 12:57 PM
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Also illegal in most racing to have any fuel components mounted on the fire wall or in line with the clutch/flywheel area
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01-27-2007, 01:39 PM
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767Jockey, I had mine originally mounted in the engine bay. After 2 1/2 years, it finally went out. Cause? MSD looked at it and said heat. It would run for a little while and then cut out. Wait 10 min and let it cool down and it would go for a little while again. Re-mounted it under the dash behind the glove box and have had no more issues. My coil is still in the engine compartmant.
Hope this helps
Mark
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01-27-2007, 01:57 PM
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My coil wire passes through the firewall slightly on the driver's side of center about two inches below the hood. It drapes down through the valley between the valve cover and the carburetor on the way to the distributor on my 351 Windsor type engine. It's not secured to anything but was sized to stay clear of the throttle linkage. It's not a car show look. My car was built for the track.
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01-27-2007, 02:23 PM
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I mounted mine behind the dash on the passenger side. It's easy to change the rev limiting chip and is out of sight - and cool and clean being in the cockpit. I mounted with rubber shock absorbers as well.
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01-27-2007, 04:24 PM
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I did the same thing Phil. Glad I did.
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