JB weld-yes or no

[trctrdrvr]

I used the putty style jb weld just last week to fix a leak in an oil pan on a cat engine new pan was $1600 no leak now

[lineslinger]

Dean,
Over 12 years ago one of the 4'x6'x5' steel box blinds in our duck lake started leaking at the bottom of a welded corner seam. These blinds have been buried partially for over 25 years. When we turn on the pumps to fill the lake in the fall only a few inches of freeboard remain.
We mixed up some JB Weld, and spread/shoved directly into the wet leaking crack. We really packed the stuff in there. This wasn't just a trickle, there was a nice little straight stream shooting out of there.
It stopped the leak completely and not a drop has come through there in all the years since then. Not intending to sound like a commercial endorsement but I am a big fan of the stuff, especially when the needs are immediate and appearances are secondary.

[McD00]

Can I fix a radiator hose with duct tape?? Yes....I can but I wouldn't trust it with a expensive and hard to replace engine or any engine for that matter unless it was a farm tractor....fix it right for christ sake!!!

Long live the Cobra!!

[lineslinger]

Originally Posted by McD00

Can I fix a radiator hose with duct tape?? Yes....I can but I wouldn't trust it with a expensive and hard to replace engine or any engine for that matter unless it was a farm tractor....fix it right for christ sake!!!

Long live the Cobra!!

He already said it was a temporary fix until the new piece comes through in his first post.
Maybe a little more awareness of Dlampe's past work is in order before any admonition starts.

[RICK LAKE]

dlampe Dean you shoot the pictures and kiss the trophy queens, let me look at the problenm for an answer. I think you where the guy with the bushing pushed out of the support mount on that red car. I think I was the guy to get them back into the mounts. I could be wrong but I have witnesses. Also to add a clamp to the outer or inner stablier bar to stop the problem. Send a picture and size of space, I will try for the fix. I have some great friends for fixing problems, baling wire, expoxy, krazy glue, RTV, Hi-tac spray, string, vicegrips and my favorite BUBBLE GUM. You need more time to watch McGyver shows. Rick L. Ps I hope the wife doesn't know that the motor was 15k on the right too. That was the price on my 452 aluminium motor and got change back.

[Excaliber]

I wouldn't use Duct Tape to fix my radiator hose either, I'd go for better quality 'race tape'.

[Traveller]

Originally Posted by lineslinger

He already said it was a temporary fix until the new piece comes through in his first post.
Maybe a little more awareness of Dlampe's past work is in order before any admonition starts.

Practice what you preach, RE: the oil filter thread.

[COBRANIP]

Wouldn't it be quicker and easier for us all to take up a donation to buy Dean a new fitting? I count 15 posters (including me).... that would be $2.67 each.... it would be charity..... and maybe that way government wouldn't have to get involved! What the hell.... put me down for $2.70! Just give us your address Dean..... and maybe a ride in your GT at R-N-G!

John

P.S. Really enjoy you articles in Kit Car Mag on chassis tuning.

[RedBarchetta]

For a dyno run, I'd take a chance with the temporary repair. Why not? A dyno session is a controlled session. Any leakage or drop in oil pressure would be immediately known by all involved, thus an earlier shut-down would be the result (vs. ripping around a track with side loads, etc.). It's quite amazing what many have done with that stuff!

-the "other" Dean (the one without the nice cars)

[lineslinger]

Originally Posted by Traveller

Practice what you preach, RE: the oil filter thread.

If you have an issue with an opinion I expressed in the oil filter thread, which you obviously do, I would be happy to talk with you back there instead.

I have seen Deans cars up close and talked with him about such.
McDoo obviously has not, thus my comment.
But I bet if he so desires McDOO can speak up for himself.

[McD00]

Originally Posted by lineslinger

He already said it was a temporary fix until the new piece comes through in his first post.
Maybe a little more awareness of Dlampe's past work is in order before any admonition starts.

I saw that, but serious damage can result in mere seconds. Better safe than sorry and yes it can happen in seconds on a dyno also

Long live the Cobra!!

[Traveller]

Lineslinger,

I have no issues with your opinion, just your delivery....and inconsistency. If you're going to go out of your way to jump on other folks for their opinion, at least try to be consistent, otherwise, it just looks like your being a prick for the sake of being a prick.

Either way, I concede which ever point you’re trying to make.

[lineslinger]

Originally Posted by Traveller

Lineslinger,

I have no issues with your opinion, just your delivery....and inconsistency. If you're going to go out of your way to jump on other folks for their opinion, at least try to be consistent, otherwise, it just looks like your being a prick for the sake of being a prick.

Either way, I concede which ever point you’re trying to make.

Consistency aside, your knee jerk reactions and admonition won't allow you to understand any of the points that have been conveyed.
Name calling is always a high end method of response, especially for those who lack the ability to explain themselves any other way.
Offers a better understanding of who or what you are really dealing with.

[lineslinger]

Originally Posted by McD00

I saw that, but serious damage can result in mere seconds. Better safe than sorry and yes it can happen in seconds on a dyno also

Long live the Cobra!!

I see your point to a degree. You are right about how a dyno can trash a motor in a flash.
Having used the stuff in different situations and as already stated its a suction line, I would have confidence in the material.

[Excaliber]

I think it is a BIG leap to assume a catastrophic 'blow out' of this rubbed elbow is within reason. This assumption is more on the order of 'the sky is falling', 'what if' and 'awfulizing'. Oh my, what if something DID break? Theres a BUNCH of stuff that 'could break' you have to have a reasoned approach as to where the likelyhood of such a failure lays. You cannot cover every instance of possible failure, time, money and life tend to get in the way of a perfect world.

How deep IS the rub? How much material is left? Pressure or suction pipe? Is the risk of failure WITHIN REASON weighed against the time, dollars and work required to make it 'perfect'? If dollars and time are no obstacle, why not send the whole freakin' car off to some shop and have them double, tripple check and wire tie every possible bolt, scew, fitting or linkage that could possibly EVER come loose? Why don't we build our engines to NASCAR specs, if money and time are no object?

I understand the need to address potential failure areas, nothing I've read in THIS thread leads me to believe THIS part is in immenent danger of failing catastrophically. WORST CASE scenario, in my opinion: Rubbed area starts to OOZE oil SLOWLY and creates a mess you have to clean up.

[McD00]

Originally Posted by lineslinger

I see your point to a degree. You are right about how a dyno can trash a motor in a flash.
Having used the stuff in different situations and as already stated its a suction line, I would have confidence in the material.

Actually the suction side of the oiling system would be worse than the pressure side. Think about it...pressure side=big oil mess and drop in pressure. Suction side possibly sucking air creating a froth...no pressure drop but still a lack of lube doing damage while the gauge reads normal.

JB weld is a temp fix to limp home and get it fixed right!

Long live the Cobra!

[scottj]

Originally Posted by McD00

Actually the suction side of the oiling system would be worse than the pressure side. Think about it...pressure side=big oil mess and drop in pressure. Suction side possibly sucking air creating a froth...no pressure drop but still a lack of lube doing damage while the gauge reads normal.

JB weld is a temp fix to limp home and get it fixed right!

Long live the Cobra!

The scavange side of a drysump system is designed to suck air, usually around 4:1 air to oil.

Scott

[Excaliber]

Interesting thought McD00 and good comeback by Scott. I think the point of both comments is, you GOT to think these repairs through very carefully. In general Club Cobra will always lean toward to the absolute perfect maintenance procedure, money and time be damned. I like to leave room for the 'little guy' to make a decent repair based on his budget and expected use. And I'm NOT talking about YOU dlampe, we KNOW you got the money ( ). 'Time', well, thats a different story, could be tight regardless of financial ability.

My stinkin' clutch slave cylinder blew out this weekend, had to limp home with no clutch. JB Weld aint gonna gonna get me out of this one...

[bly]

Excalibur,

Im sure all the "little guys" out there, do appreciate you leaving them some room.........

[RICK LAKE]

Hey Guys can we get a group hug here??? If not I am going out for popcorn and a soda. Who said Dean has MONEY??? The BOSS of the house has the MONEY!! Dean is going to be selling autographs of himself in 8x12 glossies. Dean send the picture before there a fight on here. Bottom line suck or blow, we need to re engineer the part. Everybody take a DEEP breath and RELAX!!!! Rick L.