T56 in a SPF -- We did it. - Page 2

blykins · #16 11-07-2009, 04:36 AM

T-56's have midplates that can interchange between transmissions.

The Magnum T-56 is actually offered by Tremec. There are other companies that sell them, including me. They are offered in a Ford version, only for modular engines at this point I believe.

You can also upgrade a Viper T-56 (they're a higher spec T-56) and these transmissions will hold 700-750 lb-ft with just a few minor upgrades.

The clutches are nothing special, you just use a 1-1/8x26 clutch like a TKO 600.

I have a Viper spec T-56 here that I can modify and send out for use with a SBF. It would not be new, but would be rebuilt.

mikeforte · #17 11-07-2009, 12:27 PM

Hi Steve,
The 1386-012 is discontinued from everything I've gotten from Tremec. Ford still has some stock but it is very limited from what Ford Racing told me when I checked stock.
The T-56 Magnum is available with better gear ratios and Quick Time has a bellhousing to bolt it behind numerous engine combos.
I'm developing another external slave kit for the T-56 Magnum on the bench right now. Just a few weeks from being available.

Caprimaniac · #18 11-08-2009, 05:07 AM

Mike; which Magnum T56 will have the correct length/ size when bolting up to the 302 with the correct bellhousing?

Thanks alot.

RuneS

mikeforte · #19 11-08-2009, 05:11 AM

Hi RuneS,
There are 2 versions. The T-56 Magnum & matching bellhousing will cost about $3200.00. How are you going to actuate the clutch? Cable or hydraulic??

PANAVIA · #20 11-09-2009, 11:14 PM

Mike-- How deep is the QT bellhousing >?

Have you looked at the willwood pull cylinder -- it sure is a problem solver!

you can use a diaphragm clutch with a passenger side pivot ball and a stock pull type fork.

should speed up R&D time!

Steve

Michael4yah · #21 11-10-2009, 03:35 PM

Hey Everyone. Is there anyone out there that's put a T56 in a original style frame? Got photos? Michael

PANAVIA · #22 11-10-2009, 08:24 PM

Michael ,

A T56 in an original style from would require a modified tunnel.

--Steve

Caprimaniac · #23 11-22-2009, 10:06 AM

From the above postings it sounds like all teh T56 are tha same with regards to splines and length/ width of inputshaft?

What you change is the bellhousing & opt for the correct clutch & mechanism

I'd go for a cable clutch; I guess.

rusk

PANAVIA · #24 11-22-2009, 11:49 PM

Rusk, - The T56 was sold/provided by tremec to many car manufacturers; Chevrolet , Aston Martin, Dodge, Ford , Holden, Etc.

So depending on where you source your T56 would could have some interesting inter-dependencies to solve.

That is why the Ford Part number I selected was such a nice thing. -- solved many issues and went together in a snap.

As for a Clutch actuator hydraulic and cable are both options. --

For a SPF the Clutch master can push the wilwood compressive (pull type cyl)
For an FF the Clutch cable can be attached and used as it was in the donor car.

so I would say , if you car is setup for hyd - use that , if cable , use that.

If your car is being built , use whatever you are comfortable with.

--Steve

Caprimaniac · #25 11-28-2009, 02:20 PM

so now I have only only a couple of questions left....

Shfiting the T56(Magnum): Isn't the TKO600 supposed to be shifted below 6500 rpm? what abot the T56(Magnum): Does it like beeing shifted at 7500 rpm?

Then there's size and angle of T56 and it's bellhousing... Is it much larger than a T5? Height is a concern, since that is where the car need to be cut.

PANAVIA · #26 02-21-2010, 08:20 PM

update - 2-18-2010; 4200miles on the odo which means 1200 on the new trans. --

one word . - flawless.

The T56 from ford racing M-7003-H, is one of my favorite transmissions of all time.

quiet , revs well and with the Triax shifter , is very easy to use.

No regrets. == just good driving fun.

Caprimaniac · #27 03-03-2010, 04:08 AM

Hi.

Just a quick update.

I asked for details regarding the T56 Magnum from Hurst Driveline Conversions (formerly Classic Motorsports Group). They were really friendly & sent me PDF copies of technical drawings. Actually; looking at their website tonight, they claim to be #1 in tech support. They might be, who cares; but they did send me the information quick!

They also told me that a 302/ 351 version of the Magnum should be ready for shipping very soon.
(For now they only have versions for the OHC/DOHC? NewSchool Ford V8's.)

RuneS.

blykins · #28 03-03-2010, 04:16 AM

Yep, in a Ford version, it's only available for the modular V8's.

I have never really seen the desire to use a T-56 unless you're dealing with over 700lb-ft of torque....and even then I can offer a TKO 600 that will handle that. To me, you're basically paying just to say "I have a 6-speed." They are heavy (and MUCH larger than a T5) and expensive transmissions and unless it's the Magnum, the torque capacity isn't anything special at all.

I sell a few, but I usually try to steer customers away from them.

The TKO 500/600 can be made to shift at a higher rpm. We do several modifications to them that will make them easier to shift. I don't see the T-56 being a 7500rpm box at all.

Woodz428 · #29 03-03-2010, 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blykins

Yep, in a Ford version, it's only available for the modular V8's.
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What about the T-56 units used in the SPF Coupes? Ours had the attached bellhousing with the 351W pattern when I built the car and required nothing special, that was 7 years ago.

blykins · #30 03-03-2010, 05:25 AM

Those were the older T-56's....he's referring to the Magnum T-56, which only comes in a few flavors at this point in time.