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Old 11-05-2009, 09:23 PM
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Default 145+mph

My company rent a run-way at Alameda Naval base for flight test simulation, since the run-way was too long & smooth, I decide to take the car out for fun/fast high speed run.

I have tried at least 6 times, but never able to reach 150MPH, top speed I can get around 145+, may be there it a limiter on my car.
May be I am chicken-out!!!

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Old 11-05-2009, 09:26 PM
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My company rent a run-way at Alameda Naval base for flight test simulation, since the run-way was too long & smooth, I decide to take the car out for fun/fast high speed run.

I have tried at least 6 times, but never able to reach 150MPH, top speed I can get around 145+, may be there it a limiter on my car.

Myth Buster used this tun way for all of their test & show.

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That's cool Tan! Did the car feel pretty stable at that speed? Any lifting in the front?
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The car feel very stable, and straight at the speed posted, I do not feel any lifting in the front, however there was a bit swerving on either 1st or 2nd gear if I push her to hard.

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Tan - I think you are hitting an "air=wall" Aero-Dynamic issue at 145. --

145 is very respectable with a car that blows a .45-54 CD ratio.

( who has the drag coefficient numbers on the 427 bodies >? )
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I failed physic test @ college, therefore I could not figure this out

I recalled my old Corvette can reach higher MPH then my Cobra.
Like what I said, I possible chicken out!!!

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Tan - I think you are hitting an "air=wall" Aero-Dynamic issue at 145. --

145 is very respectable with a car that blows a .45-54 CD ratio.

( who has the drag coefficient numbers on the 427 bodies >? )
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I failed physic test @ college, therefore I could not figure this out

I recalled my old Corvette can reach higher MPH then my Cobra.
Like what I said, I possible chicken out!!!

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your old Corvette likely had an optimistic speedo.


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The old Corvette has digital speedo meter, so likely more accurate then the analog on the Cobra. I may have passed the 150MPH threshold,but due to analog reading so it's hard to judge with large scale incremental.


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Remember -- in the end ; everything tastes like chicken.

I found something close to what i was looking for. -

http://www.mayfco.com/cobra.htm

scroll down to the charts.



He is using .42 Cd for his calculations which I think is optimistic. -- I think the open cobra is more like a .54-.60 Cd range.

I need to figure out how to figure that out.


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He is using .42 Cd for his calculations which I think is optimistic. -- I think the open cobra is more like a .54-.60 Cd range.

I need to figure out how to figure that out.
It's pretty hairy math. You have to begin by measuring/calculating the square footage of the frontal area. This is the easy part. One technique is to take a photo, from the furthest possible distance to flatten perspective and the longest lens available to bring the image close, with measuring references in the pic. Print large, outline the car surface, and measure measure measure.

Calculating or even estimating the Cd from there would be... entertaining.

The short way to do it is see if anyone's ever thrown a Cobra into a wind tunnel, or find a similar car that's been tunnel-tested.

.42 doesn't sound too far off, IME. He says "published figure" but doesn't cite the source.
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For comparison, my fastest speed on the front straight at Roebling Road racetrack was about 140 MPH. I exited the turn before the straight at about 100 MPH, accelerated full bore along the roughly 2,000 foot straight before hitting the brakes to slow to about 80 for Turn 1. My car accelerated strongly to near 140, but it felt like it would have taken a lot more straight away to reach 150. Keep in mind that at 140 MPH, you're traveling more than 200 feet per second. If it took 5 seconds to gain another 10 MPH, you'd cover more than 1,000 feet in that time, and your braking point would have to be moved back even farther because of your higher speed.
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I've hit over 140 on a closed course with my ERA 289 FIA. 302 with a TKO-600, 0.82 OD.

It was still pulling at 140, but I was running out of runway. I think I can hit 150-155.

Yes, it was very stabile, even under heavy braking. Thrilling, to say the least.

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I've hit over 140 on a closed course with my ERA 289 FIA. 302 with a TKO-600, 0.82 OD.

It was still pulling at 140, but I was running out of runway. I think I can hit 150-155.

Yes, it was very stabile, even under heavy braking. Thrilling, to say the least.

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Would that "closed course" happen to be Hwy 17 in Scotts Valley with no other cars around?
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I'm pretty sure Tan has a CHP 427 Street Fighter, which is just under 500 hp.
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