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10-04-2010, 08:06 PM
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Help with first oil change.
What should I use? I have a 351w 427ci crate engine from enginefactory.com. I'm at 500 miles, and don't know what oil to use. |
10-04-2010, 08:15 PM
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Best bet is to go back to the builder and ask what they recommend.
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10-04-2010, 08:23 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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And when you're doing the change, make sure you fill your filter up before you screw it on, and pay particular attention to the little rubber gasket on the filter. Don't leave the old rubber gasket stuck on the car, don't forget to rub a little oil on the new rubber gasket, and don't forget to actually use the new gasket. Anybody on here who has been changing oil for 30 or more years has forgotten to do all of these things at one time or another (and you're lying if you say you haven't  ). |
10-04-2010, 08:58 PM
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Oh, and don't wrench the new filter on very hard. Hand tight, plus a little snugging with the filter wrench if you want. If you put it on too tight, it will be hard to remove next oil change.
Make sure you torque the drain plug to the right spec. Don't over-tighten it.
Oh, and here's a tip so you don't make a big mess when you remove the filter.
1) Fill the new filter up (helps if you leave it in the box when you fill it so it doesn't fall over).
2) Loosen the old filter so you can turn it by hand.
3) Get a gallon size ziplock bag and put it over the filter. Then unscrew it from outside the bag until it drops into the bag. If you do it right, you won't have a drop of oil on the ground.
4) Check to see that the oil filter gasket came off with the filter and then put the new one in place.
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10-05-2010, 10:38 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: B&B 427 Stroked Windsor TKO 600 w/3.50 posi 9"
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Yea, its a drag when your wife comes out and oil is all over the place because the old gasket was stuck to the block and it spewed the first time you reved it up, and she says to you "did you read the manual?"
Don't ask if this happened to me! 
Luckily it was 30 years ago! Haven't made that mistake again. |
10-05-2010, 10:38 AM
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Thanks... Where were you guys when I was building this thing. I'm embarrassed to say that I do not know the torque spec for my drain plug.... I was looking for info on viscosity, conventional vs synthetic, additives, brand etc... |
10-05-2010, 10:40 AM
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You torque them thangs!?
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10-05-2010, 10:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dcdoug
3) Get a gallon size ziplock bag and put it over the filter. Then unscrew it from outside the bag until it drops into the bag. If you do it right, you won't have a drop of oil on the ground.
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That is a neat idea. i will have try that next time I change the oil on my truck.
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10-05-2010, 10:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Z-linkCobra
That is a neat idea. i will have try that next time I change the oil on my truck.
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You can also cut the bottom out of a plastic gallon jug of milk and then hold it by the handle upside down under the filter. I did that once and it worked quite well. Never did it again because the kids got mad that I dumped out a fresh gallon of milk just to get the plastic jug.  |
10-05-2010, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by patrickt
Don't leave the old rubber gasket stuck on the car).
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Yep done that before,thanks for reminding me Patrick. 
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10-05-2010, 11:11 AM
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500 miles is too soon for synthetics. Use dyno oil for at least the first 3,000 miles. I'd also recommend the redline ZDDP additive.
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10-05-2010, 11:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hooch
Thanks... Where were you guys when I was building this thing. I'm embarrassed to say that I do not know the torque spec for my drain plug.... I was looking for info on viscosity, conventional vs synthetic, additives, brand etc...
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I don't think there's a torque spec on the plug. Snug it up tight, but don't over do it.
Regarding oil viscosity, conventional vs. Synthetic. You're engine builder is your best resource. Folks on the forum can give you suggestions, but why not contact the folks at the Engine Factory?
The zip lock bags work like a charm.
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10-05-2010, 11:31 AM
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I always spill oil. Always.
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10-05-2010, 12:08 PM
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My oil drain plug is safety wired.
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10-05-2010, 01:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
My oil drain plug is safety wired.
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And how do you know your drain plug isn't reverse threaded?  |
10-05-2010, 01:11 PM
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You look to see which direction the wire is heading!  |
10-05-2010, 02:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hooch
Thanks... Where were you guys when I was building this thing. I'm embarrassed to say that I do not know the torque spec for my drain plug.... I was looking for info on viscosity, conventional vs synthetic, additives, brand etc...
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Canton says 1/4 turn past finger tight for their pans. Steve Christ says 15-20 ft/lbs on an FE. Too tight and it can split the washer and guarantee a leak.
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10-05-2010, 02:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
You can also cut the bottom out of a plastic gallon jug of milk and then hold it by the handle upside down under the filter. I did that once and it worked quite well. Never did it again because the kids got mad that I dumped out a fresh gallon of milk just to get the plastic jug. |
But then you also get it on your hands (even if you are wearing latex gloves which I'm sure you do..). My way, no fuss, no muss on anything.
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10-05-2010, 02:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
My oil drain plug is safety wired.
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Why? I would think there is zero likelihood that my oil plug is going to loosen and back out. Especially in the 500-750 miles or so I go between oil changes. . Yes, yes, a bit OCD with the mistress (cobra).
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10-05-2010, 04:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dcdoug
Why? I would think there is zero likelihood that my oil plug is going to loosen and back out. Especially in the 500-750 miles or so I go between oil changes. . Yes, yes, a bit OCD with the mistress (cobra). |
The shop that did the engine and tranny install set it up that way. I assume for the very reason you mention. They must suffer from OCD.
I agree. The likelihood is small, but if you were truly OCD, then why wouldn't you safety wire your oil drain plug?  |
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