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How much oil can a SBF 427 hold?
Roundabout question... If you started pouring oil in a 427 small block with th heads off and a Canton 9 quart pan and filter ... How many quarts can go in there before the oil is coming out the heads?
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06-02-2011, 07:24 PM
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Part 2... Now take a head off? What volume of oil is it spilling out? |
06-02-2011, 07:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cashburn
Roundabout question... If you started pouring oil in a 427 small block with th heads off and a Canton 9 quart pan and filter ... How many quarts can go in there before the oil is coming out the heads? |
How could oil come out of the heads if you've removed them?  |
06-02-2011, 07:34 PM
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Actually an small block Ford engine will hold about one quart of oil..........now how much the pan holds is another question.............
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06-02-2011, 07:34 PM
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How could oil come out of the heads if you've removed them? |
Part 2, asking what additional volume by heads... So if 16 quarts are leaking out with heads on, is 15 quarts leaking with heads off? I use these numbers as example only. |
06-02-2011, 07:37 PM
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I'm very curious as to why you're asking this....
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06-02-2011, 07:44 PM
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I'm very curious as to why you're asking this....
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We're going to follow it up with a query on how much dirt is in a hole 2x2x2.  |
06-02-2011, 07:59 PM
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C'mon Jay.....let the cat out of the bag buddy.
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06-02-2011, 08:23 PM
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We're going to follow it up with a query on how much dirt is in a hole 2x2x2. |
None! It's a hole!
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Here's another way to ask it... Could you possibly overfill a small block ford by 7 quarts?
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06-02-2011, 08:26 PM
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Here's another way to ask it... Could you possibly overfill a small block ford by 7 quarts?
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Yes, I think you could. |
06-02-2011, 08:32 PM
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Yes, I think you could.
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And not have a drop come out anywhere? No smoke, no blow by? Just nothing... |
06-02-2011, 08:34 PM
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Actually an small block Ford engine will hold about one quart of oil..........now how much the pan holds is another question.............
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Does an 8 quart pan hold 15 quarts? |
06-02-2011, 08:35 PM
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And not have a drop come out anywhere? No smoke, no blow by? Just nothing...
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I don't know about that. I feel sure you could pour an additional seven quarts in and it would hold it though. |
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C'mon Jay.....let the cat out of the bag buddy.
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I intend to share. Just want to get a grasp on this "approach"... |
06-02-2011, 08:38 PM
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How could oil come out of the heads if you've removed them? |
BTW... that was a typo, it should have been valve covers off. Sorry, on the iPad. |
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I think it would hold that much and might still run at idle. Lubrication of the piston skirts, wrist pins, and your solid roller tappets would be excellent! Lots of splash!
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At higher rpm I think things would get ugly.
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06-02-2011, 08:43 PM
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BTW... that was a typo, it should have been valve covers off. Sorry, on the iPad.
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That's why I thought it was a trick question, kind of like "Besides baseball, how many ball games can you score points in when your team doesn't have the ball?" |
06-02-2011, 09:06 PM
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That's why I thought it was a trick question, kind of like "Besides baseball, how many ball games can you score points in when your team doesn't have the ball?"
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Yeah, first with no valve covers. Then take the heads off (not sure how much oil would sit in the heads anyway...
The real question I suppose is how much oil does a pan hold when filled to the gasket? |
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If you take 427 cubic inches, you will need a little over seven quarts to fill that volume. If you roughly say the area below the piston is clearly greater than the area above the piston, then you'll easily have the room for the seven quarts without ever getting up to the heads at all even with half the pistons being down at any one time. Driven gently, you might not ever even know you've over-filled it that much... maybe.  |
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