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11-04-2011, 04:01 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Eagle,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Lone Star 427SC.
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I agree, like I first posted for that kind of money, you could have one hell of a motor other than paying for "Roush" name. Id' rather have 600-800 HP side oiler with stacked injection or the blown Shelby FE from George or Keith.
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Last edited by FUNFER2; 11-04-2011 at 04:06 PM..
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11-04-2011, 04:02 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Melbourne,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Some polish thing... With some old engine
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$40k sounds about right to me...
The engine alone runs typically about 60% of the drive line install.
Factor in the install, box, clutch, b/h, flywheel, dyno time for tuning, etc...
So $40+ for roller & $40+ for drive line sounds about par for the course for an SPF. No?
Just for the record... You wouldn't get me to part with my hard earned cash for that engine package :-)
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11-04-2011, 04:04 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Las Vegas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
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I have the paperwork for CSX4005LA. I'm pretty sure that the 427IR was in the 30K range. It included some pretty pricey options like shelby valve covers and some other things. I'll look it up as I have to sort through the paperwork to send some with the car.
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CSX4005LA
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11-04-2011, 04:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twobjshelbys
I have the paperwork for CSX4005LA. I'm pretty sure that the 427IR was in the 30K range. It included some pretty pricey options like shelby valve covers and some other things. I'll look it up as I have to sort through the paperwork to send some with the car.
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I tried calling Roush today for a price, but they were too busy at that time.
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11-04-2011, 04:22 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Scottsdale,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Black CSX 4910, Roush 511 8 stack
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My 511 8 stack polished and block clear coated was $44K - I am embarrassed to say that now but I didnt know any better at the time. And yes it is easy to build a new SPF and have as much as a CSX or kirkham depending on options. Just ask Tin Man for SPF and I priced a kirkham with all the goodies and came to well over $125000
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11-04-2011, 04:29 PM
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Point missed by all except the two Rods.
Roush is selling $8K to $12k, 500-550HP crate engines. For $21K+.
Are Shelby valve covers and DFI's horsepower? Are they 'to die for'?
No -they're off-the-scale margin parts which buyers perceive as 'cachet' along with Roush's name. To Roush's great delight. He found the perfect market to fleece-Windsors for fake Cobras.
He'll be flying more and bigger planes than Travolta.
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11-04-2011, 04:31 PM
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Look at this Superformance with the injected Roush,....for $99,900.00. Are you kidding me ?
What am I missing ???
(Get a Kirkham, aluminum with side oiler,... or Shelby.
Plus, looks like someone stole the glovebox door. Maybe signed by Shelby. lol
Replica/Kit Makes | eBay
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11-04-2011, 04:36 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Thank you, Chas. I don't really care if people think Roush is over-priced or not, or if the eBay ad is filled with inaccuracies or not.
However, the title of the thread is: "Roush 402IR 8 stack $44k?"
Maybe the title of the thread SHOULD be: "Roush 402IR 8 stack $44k installed with all labor and parts."
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11-04-2011, 05:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ERA Chas
Point missed by all except the two Rods.
Roush is selling $8K to $12k, 500-550HP crate engines. For $21K+.
Are Shelby valve covers and DFI's horsepower? Are they 'to die for'?
No -they're off-the-scale margin parts which buyers perceive as 'cachet' along with Roush's name. To Roush's great delight. He found the perfect market to fleece-Windsors for fake Cobras.
He'll be flying more and bigger planes than Travolta.
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Who are you? Herman Cain? 999 909 666
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11-04-2011, 05:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cashburn
Who are you? Herman Cain? 999 909 666
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Hey Soupy Sales!
Care to enlighten us with meaningful numbers on those Roush bits and pieces you sell to the dopes-instead of trying to be a funny man??
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11-04-2011, 05:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cashburn
Who are you? Herman Cain? 999 909 666
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No, but I'm fairly sure we can rule out Chas being a Roush employee or Roush supplier/subcontractor.
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11-04-2011, 05:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
No, but I'm fairly sure we can rule out Chas being a Roush employee or Roush supplier/subcontractor.
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That's great !
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11-04-2011, 05:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ERA Chas
Point missed by all except the two Rods.
Roush is selling $8K to $12k, 500-550HP crate engines. For $21K+.
Are Shelby valve covers and DFI's horsepower? Are they 'to die for'?
No -they're off-the-scale margin parts which buyers perceive as 'cachet' along with Roush's name. To Roush's great delight. He found the perfect market to fleece-Windsors for fake Cobras.
He'll be flying more and bigger planes than Travolta.
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Chas- "He'll be flying more and bigger planes than Travolta".
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Kevin
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11-04-2011, 05:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by csx4910
My 511 8 stack polished and block clear coated was $44K - I am embarrassed to say that now but I didnt know any better at the time. And yes it is easy to build a new SPF and have as much as a CSX or kirkham depending on options. Just ask Tin Man for SPF and I priced a kirkham with all the goodies and came to well over $125000
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CSX2910- absolutely no reason to be embarrassed !
I would love that Roush engine and your beautiful cobra, I just can't afford it.
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11-04-2011, 06:33 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
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I overstated. From a copy of the original invoice
RESF-427IR-C 427IR- 427 cu. in. Fuel injected 8-Stack engine Package includes Air Cleaner, "Weber Style" 8-stack induction system, (Engine is controlled utilizing a "Roush Calibration"), Engine control unit w/Harness, dual syn cdistributor, electric "High Volume" fuel Pump, Wide Band O2 sensor, intake air temp, sensor engine coolant sensor, MAP sensor, IAC (Idle Air Control), and ignotion control box, 36 Lb./Hr Fuel injectors and fuel pressure regulator. Also includes spark plug wires and custom looms, water pump, alternator, pulleys, w/bracket and spacers, fan belt, Roush valve covers, 8qt. Roush front sump baffled oil pan w/dipstick, flywheel, starter and cable, melling adjustable high output oil pump and "Hot Test" w/dyno documentation
Price for tne engine was $22,500
2-piece integrate loom valve cover with Shelby Logo $850
Total: 23,350
This was ordered 10/12/2006.
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11-04-2011, 06:50 PM
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That's a lot better price !
Ready to run with dyno sheet.
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11-04-2011, 07:48 PM
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Let's break it down tomorrow... Funnyman
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11-04-2011, 07:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twobjshelbys
I overstated. From a copy of the original invoice
RESF-427IR-C 427IR- 427 cu. in. Fuel injected 8-Stack engine Package includes Air Cleaner, "Weber Style" 8-stack induction system, (Engine is controlled utilizing a "Roush Calibration"), Engine control unit w/Harness, dual syn cdistributor, electric "High Volume" fuel Pump, Wide Band O2 sensor, intake air temp, sensor engine coolant sensor, MAP sensor, IAC (Idle Air Control), and ignotion control box, 36 Lb./Hr Fuel injectors and fuel pressure regulator. Also includes spark plug wires and custom looms, water pump, alternator, pulleys, w/bracket and spacers, fan belt, Roush valve covers, 8qt. Roush front sump baffled oil pan w/dipstick, flywheel, starter and cable, melling adjustable high output oil pump and "Hot Test" w/dyno documentation
Price for tne engine was $22,500
2-piece integrate loom valve cover with Shelby Logo $850
Total: 23,350
This was ordered 10/12/2006.
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Don't forget freight.
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11-04-2011, 07:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
That's a lot better price !
Ready to run with dyno sheet.
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Don't forget the actual invoice vs. the claims of the exotic car dealer reselling the car because we have not seen that yet?
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11-04-2011, 08:03 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cashburn
Don't forget the actual invoice vs. the claims of the exotic car dealer reselling the car because we have not seen that yet?
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And is it true that the warranty begins to run when the engine is delivered to the dealer, not when the buyer purchases the car?
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