Roush 402IR 8 stack $44k ?

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by madmaxx

Thanks for info!!! Tinman, it is not you who should explain why the tires are dull, it is your dealer!!!!!!!!! You are a better man than me!!!

Hopefully he will be happy come next month. If not, I already have a game plan on how I will turn the whole sordid incident in to an SPF Sucks, ERA Would Have Been Great thread.

[Jeff Frigo]

Roush Performance Engine Pricing


Part Number Fuel System APPLICATION HP / Torque Retail

SHORT DECK ENGINES

REDL-327SRFS Carbureted 327SR Front Sump 350 HP / 325 Lbs./Ft. $11,990
REDL-327SRFSP Carbureted 327SR Front Sump (Polished) 350 HP / 325 Lbs./Ft. $12,980
REDL-327SRDS-C Carbureted 327SR Dual Sump 350 HP / 325 Lbs./Ft. $11,990
REDL-327SRDSP-C Carbureted 327SR Dual Sump (Polished) 350 HP / 325 Lbs./Ft. $12,980

RESF-327SR-C Carbureted 327SR Superformance MKIII 350 HP / 325 Lbs./Ft. $12,480
RESF-327SRP-C Carbureted 327SR Superformance MKIII (Polished) 350 HP / 325 Lbs./Ft. $13,845
RESF-327SRGT-C Carbureted 327SR Superformance GT-40 350 HP / 325 Lbs./Ft. $13,940
RESF-327SRGTP-C Carbureted 327SR Superformance GT-40 (Polished) 350 HP / 325 Lbs./Ft. $15,695

REBD-327SR-C Carbureted 327SR Backdraft Roadster 350 HP / 325 Lbs./Ft. $12,600
REBD-327SRP-C Carbureted 327SR Backdraft Roadster (Polished) 350 HP / 325 Lbs./Ft. $13,985

REDL-327RFS Carbureted 327R Front Sump 425 HP / 390 Lbs./Ft. $11,990
REDL-327RFSP Carbureted 327R Front Sump (Polished) 425 HP / 390 Lbs./Ft. $12,980
REDL-327RDS-C Carbureted 327R Dual Sump 425 HP / 390 Lbs./Ft. $11,990
REDL-327RDSP-C Carbureted 327R Dual Sump (Polished) 425 HP / 390 Lbs./Ft. $12,980

RESF-327R-C Carbureted 327R Superformance MKIII 425 HP / 390 Lbs./Ft. $12,480
RESF-327RP-C Carbureted 327R Superformance MKIII (Polished) 425 HP / 390 Lbs./Ft. $13,845
RESF-327RGT-C Carbureted 327R Superformance GT-40 425 HP / 390 Lbs./Ft. $13,940
RESF-327RGTP-C Carbureted 327R Superformance GT-40 (Polished) 425 HP / 390 Lbs./Ft. $15,695

REBD-327R-C Carbureted 327R Backdraft Roadster 425 HP / 390 Lbs./Ft. $12,600
REBD-327RP-C Carbureted 327R Backdraft Roadster (Polished) 425 HP / 390 Lbs./Ft. $13,985

REDL-342SRFS Carbureted 342SR Front Sump 375 HP / 350 Lbs./Ft. $11,990
REDL-342SRFSP Carbureted 342SR Front Sump (Polished) 375 HP / 350 Lbs./Ft. $12,980
REDL-342SRDS-C Carbureted 342SR Dual Sump 375 HP / 350 Lbs./Ft. $11,990
REDL-342SRDSP-C Carbureted 342SR Dual Sump (Polished) 375 HP / 350 Lbs./Ft. $12,980

RESF-342SR-C Carbureted 342SR Superformance MKIII 375 HP / 350 Lbs./Ft. $12,480
RESF-342SRP-C Carbureted 342SR Superformance MKIII (Polished) 375 HP / 350 Lbs./Ft. $13,845
RESF-342SRGT-C Carbureted 342SR Superformance GT-40 375 HP / 350 Lbs./Ft. $13,940
RESF-342SRGTP-C Carbureted 342SR Superformance GT-40 (Polished) 375 HP / 350 Lbs./Ft. $15,695

REBD-342SR-C Carbureted 342SR Backdraft Roadster 375 HP / 350 Lbs./Ft. $12,600
REBD-342SRP-C Carbureted 342SR Backdraft Roadster (Polished) 375 HP / 350 Lbs./Ft. $13,985

REDL-342RFS Carbureted 342R Front Sump 450 HP / 420 Lbs./Ft. $11,990
REDL-342RFSP Carbureted 342R Front Sump (Polished) 450 HP / 420 Lbs./Ft. $12,980
REDL-342RDS-C Carbureted 342R Dual Sump 450 HP / 420 Lbs./Ft. $11,990
REDL-342RDSP-C Carbureted 342R Dual Sump (Polished) 450 HP / 420 Lbs./Ft. $12,980

RESF-342R-C Carbureted 342R Superformance MKIII 450 HP / 420 Lbs./Ft. $12,480
RESF-342RP-C Carbureted 342R Superformance MKIII (Polished) 450 HP / 420 Lbs./Ft. $13,845
RESF-342RGT-C Carbureted 342R Superformance GT-40 450 HP / 420 Lbs./Ft. $13,940
RESF-342RGTP-C Carbureted 342R Superformance GT-40 (Polished) 450 HP / 420 Lbs./Ft. $15,695

REBD-342R-C Carbureted 342R Backdraft Roadster 450 HP / 420 Lbs./Ft. $12,600
REBD-342RP-C Carbureted 342R Backdraft Roadster (Polished) 450 HP / 420 Lbs./Ft. $13,985

REDL-353RFS Carbureted 353R Front Sump 475 HP / 460 Lbs./Ft. $12,950
REDL-353RFSP Carbureted 353R Front Sump (Polished) 475 HP / 460 Lbs./Ft. $14,100
REDL-353RDS-C Carbureted 353R Dual Sump 475 HP / 460 Lbs./Ft. $12,950
REDL-353RDSP-C Carbureted 353R Dual Sump (Polished) 475 HP / 460 Lbs./Ft. $14,100

RESF-353R-C Carbureted 353R Superformance MKIII 475 HP / 460 Lbs./Ft. $13,550
RESF-353RP-C Carbureted 353R Superformance MKIII (Polished) 475 HP / 460 Lbs./Ft. $14,750
RESF-353RGT-C Carbureted 353R Superformance GT-40 475 HP / 460 Lbs./Ft. $14,900
RESF-353RGTP-C Carbureted 353R Superformance GT-40 (Polished) 475 HP / 460 Lbs./Ft. $16,000

REBD-353R-C Carbureted 353R Backdraft Roadster 475 HP / 460 Lbs./Ft. $13,650
REBD-353RP-C Carbureted 353R Backdraft Roadster (Polished) 475 HP / 460 Lbs./Ft. $14,850

TALL DECK ENGINES

REDL-402SRFS Carbureted 402SR Front Sump 450 HP / 440 Lbs./Ft. $12,190
REDL-402SRFSP Carbureted 402SR Front Sump (Polished) 450 HP / 440 Lbs./Ft. $13,225
REDL-402SRDS-C Carbureted 402SR Dual Sump 450 HP / 440 Lbs./Ft. $12,190
REDL-402SRDSP-C Carbureted 402SR Dual Sump (Polished) 450 HP / 440 Lbs./Ft. $13,225

RESF-402SR-C Carbureted 402SR Superformance MKIII 450 HP / 440 Lbs./Ft. $12,775
RESF-402SRP-C Carbureted 402SR Superformance MKIII (Polished) 450 HP / 440 Lbs./Ft. $14,100
RESF-402SRGT-C Carbureted 402SR Superformance GT-40 450 HP / 440 Lbs./Ft. $13,820
RESF-402SRGTP-C Carbureted 402SR Superformance GT-40 (Polished) 450 HP / 440 Lbs./Ft. $16,105
RESF-402SRC-C Carbureted 402SR Superformance Coupe 450 HP / 440 Lbs./Ft. $12,225
RESF-402SRCP-C Carbureted 402SR Superformance Coupe (Polished) 450 HP / 440 Lbs./Ft. $13,355

REBD-402SR-C Carbureted 402SR Backdraft Roadster 450 HP / 440 Lbs./Ft. $12,775
REBD-402SRP-C Carbureted 402SR Backdraft Roadster (Polished) 450 HP / 440 Lbs./Ft. $14,100

REDL-402RFS Carbureted 402R Front Sump 515 HP / 500 Lbs./Ft. $12,190
REDL-402RFSP Carbureted 402R Front Sump (Polished) 515 HP / 500 Lbs./Ft. $13,225
REDL-402RDS-C Carbureted 402R Dual Sump 515 HP / 500 Lbs./Ft. $12,190
REDL-402RDSP-C Carbureted 402R Dual Sump (Polished) 515 HP / 500 Lbs./Ft. $13,225

RESF-402R-C Carbureted 402R Superformance MKIII 515 HP / 500 Lbs./Ft. $12,775
RESF-402RP-C Carbureted 402R Superformance MKIII (Polished) 515 HP / 500 Lbs./Ft. $14,100
RESF-402RGT-C Carbureted 402R Superformance GT-40 515 HP / 500 Lbs./Ft. $13,820
RESF-402RGTP-C Carbureted 402R Superformance GT-40 (Polished) 515 HP / 500 Lbs./Ft. $16,105
RESF-402RC-C Carbureted 402R Superformance Coupe 500 HP / 500 Lbs./Ft. $12,225
RESF-402RCP-C Carbureted 402R Superformance Coupe (Polished) 500 HP / 500 Lbs./Ft. $13,355

REBD-402R-C Carbureted 402R Backdraft Roadster 515 HP / 500 Lbs./Ft. $12,775
REBD-402RP-C Carbureted 402R Backdraft Roadster (Polished) 515 HP / 500 Lbs./Ft. $14,100

REDL-427SRXFS-C Carbureted 427SRX Front Sump 480 HP / 515 Lbs./Ft. $13,300
REDL-427SRXDS-C Carbureted 427SRX Dual Sump 480 HP / 515 Lbs./Ft. $13,300

RESF-427SRX-C Carbureted 427SRX Superformance MKIII 480 HP / 515 Lbs./Ft. $13,995
RESF-427SRXGT-C Carbureted 427SRX Superformance GT-40 480 HP / 515 Lbs./Ft. $15,250
RESF427SRXC-C Carbureted 427SRX Superformance Coupe 480 HP / 515 Lbs./Ft. $13,795

REBD-427SRX-C Carbureted 427SRX Backdraft Roadster 480 HP / 500 Lbs./Ft. $13,995

REDL-427SRXFSE-C Fuel Injected 427SRXE Front Sump 480 HP / 500 Lbs./Ft. $16,925
REDL-427SRXDSE-C Fuel Injected 427SRXE Dual Sump 480 HP / 500 Lbs./Ft. $16,925

RESF-427SRXE-C Fuel Injected 427SRXE Superformance MKIII 480 HP / 500 Lbs./Ft. $17,525
RESF-427SRXGTE-C Fuel Injected 427SRXE Superformance GT-40 480 HP / 500 Lbs./Ft. $18,930
RESF-427SRXCE-C Fuel Injected 427SRXE Superformance Coupe 480 HP / 500 Lbs./Ft. $17,175

REBD-427SRXE-C Fuel Injected 427SRXE Backdraft Roadster 480 HP / 500 Lbs./Ft. $17,525

REDL-427SRFS-C Carbureted 427SR Front Sump 510 HP / 515 Lbs./Ft. $14,205
REDL-427SRFSP-C Carbureted 427SR Front Sump (Polished) 510 HP / 515 Lbs./Ft. $15,460
REDL-427SRDS-C Carbureted 427SR Dual Sump 510 HP / 515 Lbs./Ft. $14,205
REDL-427SRDSP-C Carbureted 427SR Dual Sump (Polished) 510 HP / 515 Lbs./Ft. $15,460

RESF-427SR-C Carbureted 427SR Superformance MKIII 510 HP / 515 Lbs./Ft. $14,740
RESF-427SRP-C Carbureted 427SR Superformance MKIII (Polished) 510 HP / 515 Lbs./Ft. $16,030
RESF-427SRGT-C Carbureted 427SR Superformance GT-40 510 HP / 515 Lbs./Ft. $15,935
RESF-427SRGTP-C Carbureted 427SR Superformance GT-40 (Polished) 510 HP / 515 Lbs./Ft. $18,325
RESF-427SRC-C Carbureted 427SR Superformance Coupe 510 HP / 515 Lbs./Ft. $14,485
RESF-427SRCP-C Carbureted 427SR Superformance Coupe (Polished) 510 HP / 515 Lbs./Ft. $15,615

REBD-427SR-C Carbureted 427SR Backdraft Roadster 510 HP / 515 Lbs./Ft. $14,740
REBD-427SRP-C Carbureted 427SR Backdraft Roadster (Polished) 510 HP / 515 Lbs./Ft. $16,030

REDL-427RFS-C Carbureted 427R Front Sump 550 HP / 535 Lbs./Ft. $14,205
REDL-427RFSP-C Carbureted 427R Front Sump (Polished) 550 HP / 535 Lbs./Ft. $15,460
REDL-427RDS-C Carbureted 427R Dual Sump 550 HP / 535 Lbs./Ft. $14,205
REDL-427RDSP-C Carbureted 427R Dual Sump (Polished) 550 HP / 535 Lbs./Ft. $15,460

RESF-427R-C Carbureted 427R Superformance MKIII 550 HP / 535 Lbs./Ft. $14,740
RESF-427RP-C Carbureted 427R Superformance MKIII (Polished) 550 HP / 535 Lbs./Ft. $16,030
RESF-427RGT-C Carbureted 427R Superformance GT-40 550 HP / 535 Lbs./Ft. $15,935
RESF-427RGTP-C Carbureted 427R Superformance GT-40 (Polished) 550 HP / 535 Lbs./Ft. $18,325
RESF-427RC-C Carbureted 427R Superformance Coupe 535 HP / 535 Lbs./Ft. $14,485
RESF-427RCP-C Carbureted 427R Superformance Coupe (Polished) 535 HP / 535 Lbs./Ft. $15,615

REBD-427R-C Carbureted 427R Backdraft Roadster 550 HP / 535 Lbs./Ft. $14,740
REBD-427RP-C Carbureted 427R Backdraft Roadster (Polished) 550 HP / 535 Lbs./Ft. $16,030

REDL-427IRFS-C Fuel Injected 427IR Front Sump 560 HP / 540 Lbs./Ft. $23,055
REDL-427IRFSP-C Fuel Injected 427IR Front Sump (Polished) 560 HP / 540 Lbs./Ft. $25,575
REDL-427IRDS-C Fuel Injected 427IR Dual Sump 560 HP / 540 Lbs./Ft. $23,055
REDL-427IRDSP-C Fuel Injected 427IR Dual Sump (Polished) 560 HP / 540 Lbs./Ft. $25,575

RESF-427IR-C Fuel Injected 427IR Superformance MKIII 560 HP / 540 Lbs./Ft. $23,820
RESF-427IRP-C Fuel Injected 427IR Superformance MKIII (Polished) 560 HP / 540 Lbs./Ft. $26,430
RESF-427IRGT-C Fuel Injected 427IR Superformance GT-40 560 HP / 540 Lbs./Ft. $24,885
RESF-427IRGTP-C Fuel Injected 427IR Superformance GT-40 (Polished) 560 HP / 540 Lbs./Ft. $28,445
RESF-427IRC-C Fuel Injected 427IR Superformance Coupe 560 HP / 540 Lbs./Ft. $23,560
RESF-427IRCP-C Fuel Injected 427IR Superformance Coupe (Polished) 560 HP / 540 Lbs./Ft. $26,095

REBD-427IR-C Fuel Injected 427IR Backdraft Roadster 560 HP / 540 Lbs./Ft. $23,820
REBD-427IRP-C Fuel Injected 427IR Backdraft Roadster (Polished) 560 HP / 540 Lbs./Ft. $26,430

FE ENGINES

REDL-468SRFE-C Carbureted 468SRFE (Alum. Block) 455 HP / 525 Lbs./Ft. $20,140
REDL-468SRFEP-C Carbureted 468SRFE (Alum. Block/Polished) 455 HP / 525 Lbs./Ft. $21,700

RESF-468SRFE-C Carbureted 468SRFE SPF MKIII (Alum. Block) 455 HP / 525 Lbs./Ft. $20,600
RESF-468SRFEP-C Carbureted 468SRFE SPF MKIII (Polished/Alum. Block) 455 HP / 525 Lbs./Ft. $22,245

RESH-468SRFE-C Carbureted 468SRFE Shelby CSX (Alum. Block) 455 HP / 525 Lbs./Ft. $21,290
RESH-468SRFEP-C Carbureted 468SRFE Shelby CSX (Alum. Block/Polished) 455 HP / 525 Lbs./Ft. $23,000

REDL-468RFE-C Carbureted 468RFE (Alum. Block) 500 HP / 575 Lbs./Ft. $20,140
REDL-468RFEP-C Carbureted 468RFE (Alum. Block/Polished) 500 HP / 575 Lbs./Ft. $21,700

RESF-468RFE-C Carbureted 468RFE SPF MKIII (Alum. Block) 500 HP / 575 Lbs./Ft. $20,600
RESF-468RFEP-C Carbureted 468RFE SPF MKIII (Alum. Block/Polished) 500 HP / 575 Lbs./Ft. $22,245

RESH-468RFE-C Carbureted 468RFE Shelby CSX (Alum. Block) 500 HP / 575 Lbs./Ft. $20,990
RESH-468RFEP-C Carbureted 468RFE Shelby CSX (Alum. Block/Polished) 500 HP / 575 Lbs./Ft. $23,000

REDL-511SRFE-C Carbureted 511SRFE (Alum. Block) 540 HP / 600 Lbs./Ft. $26,710
REDL-511SRFEP-C Carbureted 511SRFE (Alum. Block) (Polished) 540 HP / 600 Lbs./Ft. $28,400

RESF-511SRFE-C Carbureted 511SRFE SPF MKIII (Alum. Block) 540 HP / 600 Lbs./Ft. $27,170
RESF-511SRFEP-C Carbureted 511SRFE SPF MKIII (Alum. Block/Polished) 540 HP / 600 Lbs./Ft. $28,920

RESH-511SRFE-C Carbureted 511SRFE Shelby CSX (Alum. Block) 540 HP / 600 Lbs./Ft. $27,780
RESH-511SRFEP-C Carbureted 511SRFE Shelby CSX (Alum. Block/Polished) 540 HP / 600 Lbs./Ft. $29,545

REDL-511RFE-C Carbureted 511RFE (Alum. Block) 600 HP / 625 Lbs./Ft. $26,710
REDL-511RFEP-C Carbureted 511RFE (Alum. Block/Polished) 600 HP / 625 Lbs./Ft. $28,400

RESF-511RFE-C Carbureted 511RFE SPF MKIII (Alum. Block) 600 HP / 625 Lbs./Ft. $27,170
RESF-511RFEP-C Carbureted 511RFE SPF MKIII (Alum. Block/Polished) 600 HP / 625 Lbs./Ft. $28,920

RESH-511RFE-C Carbureted 511RFE Shelby CSX (Alum. Block) 600 HP / 625 Lbs./Ft. $27,780
RESH-511RFEP-C Carbureted 511RFE Shelby CSX (Alum. Block/Polished) 600 HP / 625 Lbs./Ft. $29,545

REDL-511IRFE-C Fuel Injected 511IRFE (Alum. Block) 600 HP / 625 Lbs./Ft. Est. $36,510
REDL-511IRFEP-C Fuel Injected 511IRFE (Alum. Block/Polished) 600 HP / 625 Lbs./Ft. Est. $39,535

RESF-511IRFE-C Fuel Injected 511IRFE SPF MKIII (Alum. Block) 600 HP / 625 Lbs./Ft. Est. $37,000
RESF-511IRFEP-C Fuel Injected 511IRFE SPF MKIII (Alum. Block/Polished) 600 HP / 625 Lbs./Ft. Est. $40,110

RESH-511IRFE-C Fuel Injected 511IRFE Shelby CSX (Alum. Block) 600 HP / 625 Lbs./Ft. $37,650
RESH-511IRFEP-C Fuel Injected 511IRFE Shelby CSX (Alum. Block/Polished) 600 HP / 625 Lbs./Ft. $40,725

[Varmit]

Originally Posted by tin-man

Here you go....................

You can get a Roush 511IRFE Shelby Aluminium block polished engine package with front sump oil pan for US$40,725, add to this ,black powder coated Shelby Valve covers, True Trac power steering accessories with black anodized pulleys, clear coated aluminium block, black anodized Clay Cook domed air cleaners with polished rings, black intake manifold, and a Bowler 4R70W Automatic transmission plus delivery to California and you are spending US$53,500.

The Superformance roller base price is US$42,900, add to this race style roller bar, silver ceramic coated side pipes and headers, 427FE polished stainless steel header kit, leather coated Moto Lite steering wheel, polished aluminium halon fire extinguisher with billet head and bracket, special tripod headlight assembly, pedal extension, full polished rims, stainless steel radiator guard, Mickey Thompson tires installed and balanced, shoulder harness, custom car cover, dealer prep and shipping costs, and you are at US$ 50,500.

Installation, including some fibreglass work, painting, special fog lamps and brackets, power steering steering kit, power brake kit, vacuum pump, chrome fan covers, side view mirrors, sway bar kit, Lokar shifter knob,installation of motor and transmission labor, steel braided lines, motor installation kit, transmission installation upgrades, 427 badges, Lokar transmission linkage, ceramic coated heat shields and installation, special foot pedals fabrication and installation, electrical wiring installation for fog lamps, plus an assortment of fluids, and we are stroking US$18,000

Grand total comes up to US$ 122, 000, plus tax and licence in Arizona.

These prices listed are two years old.

So there you have it.

OK so why did I go this way, first its a realization of a dream and is a retirement gift to myself, second, while I would dearly love to build one from scratch at this time in my life but I do not want to spend my time in the sun building a car and I absolutely know I would not have the patience. It would have also been totally impractical for me to have engaged in a build process at the same time as working in Asia.

So why didn't I buy one completed from the Club Cobra for sale site, well, it would have been somebody else's inspiration and would not have my personal stamp on it plus it would have cost a mint to travel back and forth to the USA and China until I had selected the correct one, thus the purchase of a roller, accessories, selection of an engine and the extras to make it just the way I wanted it and the install to make it a "turn key" drive away..

Would I make the same selection if I had to do it all over again, probably, but there would be a very strong pull to go with a Kirkham roller with a Keithcraft SOHC Cammer. In all fairness however, I have yet to really experience the Cobra that I selected.

I can hear some folks that say I am nuts spending this type of gelt for a Cobra and the Roush engine, but what I have listed above is general public knowledge and is available on each of the websites for the products and items listed. Arguably I have selected high end products but I make no apologies since this is my personal preference and I can live with that.

Hope this sharing helps any newbie looking for some pricing advice or anyone who is putting their shopping list together and is looking towards purchasing these products.

If anyone has some specific questions about the options I selected send me a pm.

Cheers, John, AKA, tin-man

Your money, u earned it, u got the right to spend it the way you see fit without justification. If common sense were to be applied to any of us, we would not be dropping the cash for hot rods. So I say go for what you want, you onle get one shot at the deal!!!!!!!! Enjoy

[tin-man]

Originally Posted by Varmit

Your money, u earned it, u got the right to spend it the way you see fit without justification. If common sense were to be applied to any of us, we would not be dropping the cash for hot rods. So I say go for what you want, you onle get one shot at the deal!!!!!!!! Enjoy

Amen, and considering I didn't tell my wife until she asked what the roller and engine deposits were for in the checkbook to Hillbank and Roush, there is no way on earth that I would ever be able to pull that one off again and live to talk about it.

Cheers, John, AKA, tin-man

[rodneym]

Armor All?

Shiny TIRES?!?!?!?!

Oy, vey.

[tin-man]

Originally Posted by rodneym

Armor All?

Shiny TIRES?!?!?!?!

Oy, vey.

rodneym, I never really gave it much attention until Madmaxx talked about the dull tires. I thought tire treatment shined the tires or does it just make them blecker?

So how many readers make their tires blecker and what do they use?

Cheers, John, AKA, tin-man

[rodneym]

I guess I'm one of wierdos that like their tires to look like rubber, not plastic.


BTW, the Roush HP/TQ numbers on the 'big list': the 468FEs have numbers showing when it was a 451. Those have been bumped with the displacement.

[Keithc8]

With other good options out there why would someone pay these prices for these engines. I know that the dealers really push them so that they can make their cut. I guess when business slows down just charge more the the engines and you do not have to do as many. I guess I should have thought of that.

Later, Keith

[Flygirl]

As a sidenote, I use Zaino products; I really like their stuff.

Their tire dressing doesn't seem to turn tires brown in the sun and has a nice semi-gloss finish without that wet look. It also seems to last longer than Armor-all.

[Cashburn]

Originally Posted by Keithc8

With other good options out there why would someone pay these prices for these engines. I know that the dealers really push them so that they can make their cut. I guess when business slows down just charge more the the engines and you do not have to do as many. I guess I should have thought of that.

Later, Keith

I challenge you to price one of your small block 427s against a Roush 427r line by line for each and every part including crating, freight, and in house warranty. And by every part I mean FEAD, starter, fuel pump, air cleaner with K&N etc.

Then we can put it to bed.

[Dimis]

Originally Posted by Cashburn

I challenge you to price one of your small block 427s against a Roush 427r line by line for each and every part including crating, freight, and in house warranty. And by every part I mean FEAD, starter, fuel pump, air cleaner with K&N etc.

Then we can put it to bed.

You're kidding aren't you?

KC reputably has FE builds consuming less oil than Roush small blocks...
I know where I'd prefer to send my check

[Barry_R]

Originally Posted by Keithc8

With other good options out there why would someone pay these prices for these engines. I know that the dealers really push them so that they can make their cut. I guess when business slows down just charge more the the engines and you do not have to do as many. I guess I should have thought of that.

Later, Keith

Keith
Its pretty easy really. Your signature - or mine - are not worth as much as Carroll's and Jack's. While the external dress may be different, the vast majority of high cost internal parts are essentially the same as our's.

[Cashburn]

Originally Posted by Dimis

You're kidding aren't you?

KC reputably has FE builds consuming less oil than Roush small blocks...
I know where I'd prefer to send my check

Volume my boy, volume...

If you sell 2000 engines and have 20 problems you are far ahead then 200 engines with 2 problems. Percentages don't tell you everything.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Cashburn

Percentages don't tell you everything.

If they did then we'd all be happy with a 99.999% successfull landing ratio for passenger jets.

[ERA Chas]

Forget the part-by-part cost comparison. Examine the horsepower-per-dollar comparison.
Roush's 511 that makes 572 horsepower is a 1.12 horsepower-per-cube, under achiever -for $50K plus in Tin's case.
That will not sound like a 'freight train'. It will sound like money flying out of your pocket.
Keith, Barry and others here easily make 650 HP for half that cost. And if you only want 570 HP they'll make it in smaller displacements for far less cash.
Keith's right about the assemblers and dealers being Roush cheerleaders.

[Dimis]

Originally Posted by Cashburn

Volume my boy, volume...

Surely all the more reason to be cheaper again...

There's no way I'd give Roush a check a head of KC (or Barry, or Blynkins for that matter).

Sorry, the only nice thing I can say about Roush is - they sure have some pretty valve covers

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Dimis

There's no way I'd give Roush a check a head of KC (or Barry, or Blynkins for that matter)

C'mon guys, these are cars are all replicas to begin with. Why not just have Blykins build you a replica Roush engine for one third the cost. He'll build it well and then pay him to slap on some Roush plates/covers and you're good to go. How is that any different than the Cobra emblem on the hood of my replica car?

[Dimis]

Originally Posted by patrickt

C'mon guys, these are cars are all replicas to begin with. Why not just have Blykins build you a replica Roush engine for one third the cost. He'll build it well and then pay him to slap on some Roush plates/covers and you're good to go. How is that any different than the Cobra emblem on the hood of my replica car?

I don't do replicas.
"...a rose by anyother name..."

I'd be the type of guy who is happy to have ERA logos on my ERA, cos, guess what? It's an ERA!
...and I would have chosen it and be proud of it!

If Blynkins built me an engine, I'd prefer his autograph on it thanks!

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Dimis

If Blynkins built me an engine, I'd prefer his autograph on it thanks!

Alright, do you want Blynkins or Blykins? You know, I kind of like the idea of him setting up an engine shop and calling it Wynkins, Blynkins, and Nod....

[Dimis]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Alright, do you want Blynkins or Blykins? You know, I kind of like the idea of him setting up an engine shop and calling it Wynkins, Blynkins, and Nod....

Dude, it's 2:45am where I'm at.
I'm on heavy sedation drugs as I've just done my ac joint while coming off my bicycle at 60kph on my way to work yesterday.
And I've fat fingers typing on an iPhone.
Please forgive me & cut me some slack.

Despite all this you still couldn't get me to write that "cheque" to Roush.

Ps: the bike is fine & came out unscathed, so I'm happy