Club Cobra Keith Craft Racing  

Go Back   Club Cobra > Engine Building, Tuning, and Induction > Small Block Talk

Nevada Classics
Main Menu
Module Jump:
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
Keith Craft Racing
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
November 2024
S M T W T F S
          1 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30

Kirkham Motorsports

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 10-29-2013, 06:27 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 62
Not Ranked     
Default Ford Racing 427 whine

Hi I recently had the new Ford Racing 427 crate engine dropped into my new BDR cobra. I noticed while accelerating that the car had a whine to it and at first assumed it was the TKO 600. This evening I lifted the hood and pulled the throttle and the whine is coming from the engine. Any ideas on what it may be?

I took a video but Club Cobra will not allow a movie to be attached.

Thanks in advance.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 10-29-2013, 06:37 PM
Dwight's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Florence, AL
Cobra Make, Engine: RCR GT 40 & 1966 Fairlane 390 5 speed
Posts: 4,511
Not Ranked     
Smile

timing chain?

Dwight
__________________
''Life's tough.....it's even tougher if you're stupid.'' ~ John Wayne
"Happiness Is A Belt-Fed Weapon"
life's goal should be; "to be smarter than inanimate objects"
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 10-29-2013, 06:42 PM
Cashburn's Avatar
Backdraft Racing Dealer
Visit my Photo Gallery
Lifetime Contributor
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Haven, CT
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
Posts: 5,119
Not Ranked     
Default

You've got those gilmer pulleys?
__________________
IT'S NOT REAL. IT'S UNREAL.
VINTAGE MOTORSPORTS
888.427.1965 | www.vintagemotorsports.com
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 10-29-2013, 06:42 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,078
Not Ranked     
Default

Belt noise, water pump bearings, what Dwight said...wide open question.
Get a length of heater hose, hold one end on a part (like water pump) and other in your ear. You'll find it right away. For the belt, spray a bit of WD while it idles and see if it stops.
__________________
Chas.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 10-29-2013, 07:15 PM
Cashburn's Avatar
Backdraft Racing Dealer
Visit my Photo Gallery
Lifetime Contributor
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Haven, CT
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
Posts: 5,119
Not Ranked     
Default

You probably have gilmer pulleys. How wide is your "fan belt"?
__________________
IT'S NOT REAL. IT'S UNREAL.
VINTAGE MOTORSPORTS
888.427.1965 | www.vintagemotorsports.com
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 10-29-2013, 07:48 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 62
Not Ranked     
Default

Thanks for the input gentlemen. Here is a link to the video I took earlier. Not sure if its a belt.

Ford Crate 427 - YouTube
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 10-29-2013, 07:58 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 62
Not Ranked     
Default

I will get a better picture of the belt tomorrow. You can see it in this picture.
Attached Images
 
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 10-29-2013, 08:09 PM
Cashburn's Avatar
Backdraft Racing Dealer
Visit my Photo Gallery
Lifetime Contributor
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Haven, CT
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
Posts: 5,119
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EBruce View Post
Thanks for the input gentlemen. Here is a link to the video I took earlier. Not sure if its a belt.

Ford Crate 427 - YouTube
Gilmer belt. I'd include a K&N filter for that price

Get a better shot of the pulleys tomorrow to be sure. Unless your riding on the fender in that video your transmission has nothing to do with that sound.
__________________
IT'S NOT REAL. IT'S UNREAL.
VINTAGE MOTORSPORTS
888.427.1965 | www.vintagemotorsports.com
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 10-29-2013, 08:16 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 3,077
Not Ranked     
Default

Had a corvette make the same sound. After changing the waterpump with no change in Lise turned out to be an electrical noise caused by the alternator.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 10-29-2013, 09:27 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 62
Not Ranked     
Default

Thanks for the input guys. I will take some pictures to post tomorrow of the belt/pulleys. From behind the wheel I would have sworn in was the TKO.

Interesting on the alternator MADMAX, would not think this would be the issue with a new alternator?

Almost sounds like a blower
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 10-30-2013, 04:26 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Cobra Make, Engine: 427
Posts: 298
Not Ranked     
Default

alternator
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 10-30-2013, 05:38 AM
mln385's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Cobra Make, Engine: BDR
Posts: 536
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by D111 View Post
alternator
Ditto.....loosen or remove the belt. If the noise goes away it is one of the belt driven accessories. Most likely the alternator.
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 10-30-2013, 06:03 AM
Cashburn's Avatar
Backdraft Racing Dealer
Visit my Photo Gallery
Lifetime Contributor
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Haven, CT
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
Posts: 5,119
Not Ranked     
Default



__________________
IT'S NOT REAL. IT'S UNREAL.
VINTAGE MOTORSPORTS
888.427.1965 | www.vintagemotorsports.com
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 10-30-2013, 08:13 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 973
Not Ranked     
Default

I can't imagine living with that....
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 10-30-2013, 09:54 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Cobra Make, Engine: 427
Posts: 298
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cashburn View Post


I don't think it would take him two thousand miles to notice that whining ;:-)
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 10-30-2013, 03:22 PM
Cashburn's Avatar
Backdraft Racing Dealer
Visit my Photo Gallery
Lifetime Contributor
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Haven, CT
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
Posts: 5,119
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by D111 View Post
I don't think it would take him two thousand miles to notice that whining ;:-)

He's on his second car. And just got it.
__________________
IT'S NOT REAL. IT'S UNREAL.
VINTAGE MOTORSPORTS
888.427.1965 | www.vintagemotorsports.com
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 10-30-2013, 05:00 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 62
Not Ranked     
Default

Jay-
That sounds very similar. Here are the pics you requested.
Attached Images
  
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 10-30-2013, 05:22 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Cobra Make, Engine: 427
Posts: 298
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cashburn View Post
He's on his second car. And just got it.
yes j don't know where I got the 2000 miles from I think it was something else I was looking at it looks like he has the whiny belt ewee.....
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 10-30-2013, 07:04 PM
Cashburn's Avatar
Backdraft Racing Dealer
Visit my Photo Gallery
Lifetime Contributor
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Haven, CT
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
Posts: 5,119
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EBruce View Post
Jay-
That sounds very similar. Here are the pics you requested.
You got the narrow millerspeed "gilmer" pulleys. So the sound is "normal". We install them when people insist.
__________________
IT'S NOT REAL. IT'S UNREAL.
VINTAGE MOTORSPORTS
888.427.1965 | www.vintagemotorsports.com
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 10-30-2013, 07:10 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 62
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cashburn View Post
You got the narrow millerspeed "gilmer" pulleys. So the sound is "normal". We install them when people insist.
Thanks for the help Jay, the previous build didnt make the same noise so I'm assuming they didn't put the gilmer pulleys on that one.

Two quick questions:
1) Why do people insist/request these?

2) What do you put on for people like me who would rather go without the whine!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:24 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy
Links monetized by VigLink