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11-17-2015, 06:46 PM
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Hoity, I'm putting a supercharged Coyote engine from a 2013 FPV GT in my build and it fits. You can also make the Coyote engine look very cool, just add an 8 stack injection system and some billet valve covers.
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Hey d488y2, i am not sure if the Cobra Jet intake manifold is higher than yours, do you have much clearance under the hood/scoop?
I would like something a little different although given the amount of chevs going into these things, anything ford is a little different!
The 8 stack looks great, but when you factor in what you get with the XS, compared to the std coyote, then modifying to suit. Its probably cheaper going with the XS and its all sorted from the factory
Coyote miami do you have much clearance under the hood?
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11-17-2015, 07:37 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: BD 1445 Coyote TKO 600 3.91
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for sale
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11-17-2015, 07:42 PM
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That is some motor?
Might be a little more than i am looking for, price is good though!
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11-17-2015, 08:30 PM
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Hoity
You should look here.
Lots of pics and combinations
ALL the questions you have asked about THE BUILDS have been done here.
From the 427, Boss 302, SC Coyote, STD Coyote, Coyote with 8 stack and even a whipple.
VINTAGE Motorsports Photo Gallery - Backdraft Roadsters
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11-17-2015, 10:11 PM
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For $15000 your in FE territory with 100 more hp and 150 more tq...even a Windsor you would save 5 grand and have more power...
11 to 1 compression will need more than 93 octane not to ping, you will have to mix race fuel with premium, I had to do that with my Aluminator...
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$13995 was my cheapest in CA. Here in OZ, especially where i would be driving 95 or 98 octane fuel readily available.
For a 427 FE, if you stay with an Iron block your probably going to save $2k not $5K, if you go alloy block, by the time you add EFI etc not alot in it. We need efi here to pass emissions testing!
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Hoity, you know how "oils ain't oils"... Well when comparing USA fuel to AUS fuel - "octanes ain't octanes".
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11-17-2015, 10:35 PM
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Hey Dimis, you have got me.
How is it that all is not as it seems?
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11-17-2015, 10:38 PM
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Thanks for the link, full of cobra porn
Ps: enjoyed your YouTube clip, sweet looking ride, it seems go alright as well
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11-17-2015, 10:52 PM
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Hey Dimis, you have got me.
How is it that all is not as it seems?
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We measure using different scales.
USA uses AKI or something like that.
Aus uses RON
I can't quite remember the details. Google it for more info, but I recall researching this with my engine builder to ensure that when we built my engine compression and octane levels jived.
Thx
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11-18-2015, 02:44 AM
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I will google it
In the meantime I think my engine bay should look like this.
VINTAGE Motorsports Photo Gallery - DSC03351.JPG
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11-18-2015, 04:02 AM
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Hey Dimis, did some reading, not that I ever doubted you. Somethings are just not what they seem.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating
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11-18-2015, 12:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dimis
We measure using different scales.
USA uses AKI or something like that.
Aus uses RON
I can't quite remember the details. Google it for more info, but I recall researching this with my engine builder to ensure that when we built my engine compression and octane levels jived.
Thx
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There are two ways to measure Octane ratings. The Research method and the Motor method. In the US we use the average of both combined (R+M/2).
In Oz, they use one or the other. If I remember correctly (IIRC), they use the Motor method which is the higher of the two.
Your 93 Oz octane gas is NOT the same as US 93 octane, far from it.
HTH,
Phill Pollard - Co. Spgs, CO
ERA #446 427 S/C
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11-18-2015, 02:08 PM
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Our 91 octane in AZ is about 87 when tested, I had to mix 110 octane race at 5 gallons to mix with the 87 to get a 95plus octane it did not ping but I was down on power, that was the only drawback to the 11:1 compression...
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11-18-2015, 02:56 PM
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Pace did a test fit just before my kit was shipped. There’s not a lot of clearance but it fits. The body is currently off my build and if all goes to plan I should be dropping the engine in soon.
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Hey d488y2, i am not sure if the Cobra Jet intake manifold is higher than yours, do you have much clearance under the hood/scoop?
I would like something a little different although given the amount of chevs going into these things, anything ford is a little different!
The 8 stack looks great, but when you factor in what you get with the XS, compared to the std coyote, then modifying to suit. Its probably cheaper going with the XS and its all sorted from the factory
Coyote miami do you have much clearance under the hood?
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11-18-2015, 04:43 PM
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thanks D488y, the link dan sent for vintage motorsports above has photos of what i wanted to see.
Your engine bay certainly looks full. I dont think the cobra jet manifold is any higher and in fact maybe lower than your setup.
Spoke with John at Herrods yesterday, so all good. Just need to find the dollars
Enjoying your build tread
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11-18-2015, 05:30 PM
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on the octane side of things, usa 87 is approx our 91 or std, usa 91 is approx our 95
usa 93 is approx 98 aus.
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11-18-2015, 05:56 PM
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on the octane side of things, usa 87 is approx our 91 or std, usa 91 is approx our 95
usa 93 is approx 98 aus.
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Our gas in AZ is so bad it just boils in a carb..
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03-26-2016, 02:43 PM
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If we decide to install a Coyote setup with a 6-spd Tremec, is there a source somwhere with a list of required parts and stuff needed for the full install? Or someplace with full drop in and go kits...?
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03-26-2016, 03:58 PM
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If we decide to install a Coyote setup with a 6-spd Tremec, is there a source somwhere with a list of required parts and stuff needed for the full install? Or someplace with full drop in and go kits...?
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What are you installing it in?
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03-26-2016, 09:00 PM
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The Coyote package is a great setup in a Cobra. I'm familiar with one that James Yale owner of Radical Roadsters in Houston had In Backdraft Roadster. Impressive package, hovever; I must say that although the motor was in excess of 500 HP at idle it sounded like a Ford minivan. I know that is the result of efficient computer based fuel management and valve timing but it is not what I think of when a Cobra comes to mind. I respect the technology but the Way the Coyote power plant sounds at idle is a definite disconnect for me. Good luck with whatever combination you end up installing in your car.
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03-27-2016, 07:10 AM
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I just got my BDR with a 435HP Coyote, it is awesome. Would not have done it any other way.
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