Weber carbs

Wheels427 · #1 (**permalink**) 03-18-2005, 06:19 PM

Thinking about running Weber set-up on 302 with Eder. heads & cam [med level]was wondering if they work well on the street,I just go to car cruises & car shows ,I like the look, wondering if it's worth it?Thanks.

traindriver · #2 (**permalink**) 03-18-2005, 07:50 PM

Wheels,

The look IMO is unbeatable, the torque increase feels like an additional 50ci under the hood. Be prepared for some tinkering. An easy to adjust linkage is a must, and make sure you buy the Weber Factory Tuning Manual and read it at least 6 times

, particularly the part on syncronizing. I just upgraded my 351 last fall....I'm on my 10th jetting iteration, she runs strong with no sag up to 4500 rpm. Once the weather warms, I'll get it to go to 6000 by opening up the air correctors.

Chuck

ack fia · #3 (**permalink**) 03-21-2005, 05:50 PM

Wheels427,
I too have an ERA FIA with a 302. Today I completed the installation of a set of Weber 48 IDA's and I am now in the process of fine tuning them.
It would be interesting to compare notes if you decide to go there. You are right, they look awsome and with the ERA construction they look just like the real cars.
I've learned a lot so far and I'm sure to learn more as I get into it.
By the way, what number is your car ?? I have #39.

Wheels427 · #4 (**permalink**) 03-21-2005, 06:16 PM

Mines #55,Where did you get your Webers,I'm thinking of going to Inglese,anything I should know before I buy them?Thanks

ack fia · #5 (**permalink**) 03-21-2005, 06:39 PM

Wheels,
I got mine at Top End Performance. They were under $3000. I got the kind that has a traditional thermostate housing (Mustang) but I wanted to simplify things. I also had to rejet their setup to what people have had luck with.
I got a bit annul with the fuel lines and learned alot about AN- hoses and fittings. I also spent a few bucks.
The standard ERA linkage seems to be working fine with the "side mounted" linkage that comes with the setup but lots of people have trouble with it. Time will tell for me.
I put an NOS Accel tach drive distributor, Jones mechanical tach and a pair of outstanding FIA replica valve covers (thanks to Rick Parker) in at the same time.
Pictures to follow.
Where in CT are you??

Wheels427 · #6 (**permalink**) 03-21-2005, 07:18 PM

I'm in northern Ct.Thanks for the tips.

traindriver · #7 (**permalink**) 03-21-2005, 07:22 PM

Top End has the best price on the Web $499 no shipping charges. if you don't have a manifold you can save some $$ at ford-y-block.com (John Mummert)

Chuck

DealsGapCobra · #8 (**permalink**) 04-09-2005, 09:27 PM

When considering where to buy your carbs and jets make sure you ask them if they leave the numbers on the jets or grind them off. There is at least one business that seems to think that grinding them off, thereby requiring you to return to them for additional jets is a "reasonable" way to do business!

When I bought my car it had a set of jets from this company...they have not seen ANY of my business.

Rob

Rick Parker · #9 (**permalink**) 04-09-2005, 09:41 PM

Rob:

What you may be experiencing is unscrupulous practice of resizing a jet from one size to another instead of supplying the correct OEM (non modified) part . Removing the original sizing numbers is an attempt to eliminate confusion, however the actual flow characteristics change when you just "Drill it" out to another size. One end of the jet is chamfered and without a complete set of the proper reamers ($$$$mall one$) they will all flow differently. Just a heads up for you.

Rick

tblackgt350 · #10 (**permalink**) 04-09-2005, 10:27 PM

Wheels, Traindriver is right; a good linkage set-up that opens/closes the carbs at the same rate is about the most important thing to make these things work. When you get your system right you will LOVE them.
I would advise you stay away from Inglese unless you need a piece of linkage or some minor part that you cannot get elsewhere.
Many people on this site can give very accurate info on jets, cams, proper timing advance, etc. These carbs are very streetable. I've found that the people that say they aren't have never owned a set.

Tim

DealsGapCobra · #11 (**permalink**) 04-10-2005, 07:54 AM

Rick,

Thanks for the heads up...I am well aware of the "redrill" issue. The jets that were in my carbs (and are now in the trash) were not modified (they looked stock except for the removed number). I was told by the seller of this businesses practice and though "I'll give them a call to check", yep they wanted all of the engine info and said "I send you some jets". When pressed about whether or not they would still have the numbers on them they got defensive and the call was soon over.

Rob

Eljaro · #12 (**permalink**) 04-10-2005, 09:48 AM

looks like Weber is IN ! I too am surfing to collect as much info about a setup for my BB 427 C/O.
I have found a kit for $3.295 without fuel lines at several Weber vendors and a similar kit with fuel lines, regulator and gauge for $4.795 at Inglese. I have asked them what else they offer for the extra $1.500
Waiting for a reply.
It seems to be important to get the linkage precisely adjusted. If what you get is crap, you can make that yourself or get trick linkage parts at Total Performance.
Generally speaking I think that there is now sufficient info on the Cobra Forum as to put together a good running setup.
The fine tuning you will have to do yourself, no matter from whom you buy.
Dont forget to ask the vendor to tell you what exctly is fitted to the carbs such as jets, tubes, chokes, etc.

Hankcar · #13 (**permalink**) 04-19-2005, 01:02 PM

You can get these for $3795.00
http://www.twminduction.com/v8_kits/v8_kits-FR.html

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Originally posted by Eljaro

looks like Weber is IN ! I too am surfing to collect as much info about a setup for my BB 427 C/O.
I have found a kit for $3.295 without fuel lines at several Weber vendors and a similar kit with fuel lines, regulator and gauge for $4.795 at Inglese. I have asked them what else they offer for the extra $1.500
Waiting for a reply.
It seems to be important to get the linkage precisely adjusted. If what you get is crap, you can make that yourself or get trick linkage parts at Total Performance.
Generally speaking I think that there is now sufficient info on the Cobra Forum as to put together a good running setup.
The fine tuning you will have to do yourself, no matter from whom you buy.
Dont forget to ask the vendor to tell you what exctly is fitted to the carbs such as jets, tubes, chokes, etc.

Full Throttle Al · #14 (**permalink**) 04-19-2005, 04:25 PM

I have a set of brand new polished and chromed 48 IDAs on a small block set, from Ingelse, ready to install. You can see pictures at my gallery.

Alan Sorkey
Shreveport, LA
CSX4083

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Cal Metal · #15 (**permalink**) 04-19-2005, 04:35 PM

Wheels427:

Would have to agree with some of the others. Stay away from Inglese and get the best deal you can from some of the other suppliers. There is enough expertise on this Forum to help you with the set up. No sense in paying a premium for something you can get for nothing on this Forum. The "after sale" help with Inglese is nothing to write home about, believe me.

Snakebit · #16 (**permalink**) 04-19-2005, 07:51 PM

Picked up a used Inglese polished Weber intake a while back then bought the carbs from Top End for $489 each with free shipping. Purchased jets and air correctors from Inglese and they all have numbers. Linkage was from Pierce. Shop around for the best deals. You can save by putting it together your self. You still have to rejet and tune if you buy the complete set up.

The same goes for stroker kits, it was cheaper to buy the components seperately JE pistons, Scat forged crank, Crower rods, Speed Pro rings and Federal bearings than buying a package with a cast crank.

Eljaro · #17 (**permalink**) 04-19-2005, 08:13 PM

Finally I ordered a Weber kit from top performance for $3295, and for $185 a fuel line to fit. That same kit costs at Inglese now $4995.
Unless you are an absolute rookie to car mechanics, you should get the best deal from a reputable vendor. Top performance will give you technical assistance. With a few phonecalls there and some info and feedback from fellow clubcobra members one should get a weber kit fine tuned sooner or later.
I did not consider the EFI option, because I have enough hassle at work with computers/software and computing is no joy for me. I want to keep my hobby "computerless" except for surfing the internet.
I prefer carbs and the mechanics of it and would not like the massive cable harness associated with an EFI system.

4RE KLR · #18 (**permalink**) 04-20-2005, 03:48 PM

I agree with Cal Metal

I know FIRST HAND!

Yes they do assemble a pretty nice looking set up but....

The jets in my system had the numbers scratched off the side and new numbers written on them. The specs that I ordered were not the jets or chokes I ordered. After many of frustrating days trying to tune the (lets say system) I contacted Cal Metal and Enzo. Both were more than generous with their knowledge and time and literally talked me through a tune up on my car over the phone! It ran like a scalded ape when I was finished with it, and it no longer smelled like a refineray when it was running.

My hat is off to Enzo and Cal..
Thank you both

As for everyone else, you could do alot better by looking elsewhere for your webers.