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07-04-2006, 11:37 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Annapolis,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique, 427SO, it runs
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I too have trouble getting the oil temps high enough with the cooler on a 427SO.
I took a piece of cardboard cut to the exact size of the oiler cooler, fiberglassed over it, with under $10 worth of materials from any marine supply store, painted it black, and attach and remove it with velcro to the front of the cooler.
It's ridiculously simple and works great.
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07-04-2006, 12:02 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Atlanta,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CAV GT40 with 331 KC
Posts: 2,187
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Originally Posted by Mark Husar
Perhaps you guys could educate me a little. What would the acceptable oil temperature during normal driving? As the oil heats up, where would the upper limits of temperature be and when should I be concerned that it is getting hot to the point of damage?
My 396 stroker runs water temp right at 185 degrees and my oil temperature stays about 200 degrees. When I run it hard, the oil temp will creep up to 225 or so. Occasionally I have seen 240. I have the canton, but don't run a cooler at this point. Should I re-connect the cooler ? The temps here in Sac. run 100 degrees + in summer.
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I would want to see 220F during normal driving - hard use (sustained 100 mph or track use I would think 240-260....upper limit? 320...... |
07-04-2006, 12:54 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: saratoga,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #185, Shelby Alloy 482; sold
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Well Hi Pat.
That jives with what I've been told: 100 degrees C, normal driving; 120 degrees C spirited, and 135 degrees C as a safe upper limit.
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08-01-2006, 12:27 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Kimball,
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Has anyone here used an Earl's oil cooler? Any thought? |
08-01-2006, 01:00 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Crystal Lake,
IL
Cobra Make, Engine: Everett-Morrison, 434 cid
Posts: 977
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Originally Posted by quickjack
Has anyone here used an Earl's oil cooler? Any thought? |
I have... identical to a Mocal... you'd almost think they are manufactured by the same company. |
08-02-2006, 06:48 AM
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What is the typical size used?
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08-02-2006, 07:10 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Crystal Lake,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Everett-Morrison, 434 cid
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Mocal 235 Matrix 16 row w/-10 fittings is the size that Cobra Accessories sells. I got the same size with -12 fittings from Earls.
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08-02-2006, 07:27 AM
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Thanks Scott.
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08-02-2006, 08:06 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Milwaukee,
WI
Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance MkIII, Performance Engineering 418 Stroker. Keyless Entry, and naturally aspirated A/C
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Ok, so far I'm following the logic of the oil temps.
Here is my problem. My oil cooler is not even connected, and I can't get the oil over 190 even on a 100 degree day. Engine temps never exceed 196, so maybe I need a warmer thermostat ?
FYI, I have a 418 stroker with a canton 8qt pan. Maybe that huge pan bleeds off too much heat ?
At least I can sleep at night knowing my car won't overheat if I get stuck in traffic. 
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08-02-2006, 08:29 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Southern Connecticut,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF - 351W, 944 non-turbo
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Remod:
You worry too much.
bob
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08-02-2006, 08:38 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Milwaukee,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance MkIII, Performance Engineering 418 Stroker. Keyless Entry, and naturally aspirated A/C
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Thanks Bob,
Life was great. Birds chirping,  harps and zithers, angels choirs, and then somebody informed me about my low oil temps! 
Now I'm looking for a box cutter to slit my wrists.. 
But Bob intervened in the nick of time! 
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08-02-2006, 09:35 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: VALLEY FORGE,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SUPERFORMANCE w DOUG MEYER ENGINE
Posts: 1,958
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I was running my car REALLY hard the other day and got the oil temp up to 275-280ish. So, I called my engine man. He said "No Worries". He did say that if I hit 300+ regularly it is time to hook up the cooler.
Apparently cold oil is worse that hot oil.
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08-02-2006, 10:47 AM
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JBCOBRA, yes!! I amazed with how hot the oil temps can climb if you keep the engine revs up. For me, a quick burst here and there doesn't do much...but if I maintain revs ...say above 3500-4000rpm...I need to keep an eye out on the oil temp becuase it climbs with no signs of stopping. I either change my driving, to keep the revs lower, or turn on the oil cooler.
I've never noticed this with other cars or engines. Is it just me, or just a Windsor thing...or is it because my SPF is the only car that I've ever had with an oil temp gage...?
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08-02-2006, 03:10 PM
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Location: VALLEY FORGE,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SUPERFORMANCE w DOUG MEYER ENGINE
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Oil temp gauges definately come in handy. I know they have saved me $$$ on a variety of cars. Basically, run the heck out it. Just never beat them when they are not fully warmed up. I think that is the worst thing for an engine. I look at that guage more during warmup/putting around.........waiting patiently before I PUT IT TO THE WOOD! LOL
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