Build a Kit other than Cobra & GT 40

[Jim Barnett]

Well, all those other kits sure look great, especially the Ultima, BUT I personally would like to buy another 4 spd '70 Road Runner and convert it over to a SuperBird)

[need4speed]

Originally Posted by LMH

The P4 is really cool. Another on my list.
The thing I don't like about Becks Lister and 550 is they aren't very accurate in shape and profile. Same thing that bugs me about some Cobra replicas.
To each his own I guess.
Larry

I can't comment on the 550 but the mold for the older Beck Listers were taken from an original but were slightly elongated to allow a few more inches of cabin room. Profile differences are really not visible. Also with the original Listers almost no two were exactly alike, some had different hood profiles to suit the engine and intake system differences (Jag 6, Chevy V8 with injection stacks, etc.), higher rear decks for larger fuel cells, some had the hood and door seams separate and some had them as the same seam. I have also taken a fair number of measurements of my Beck Lister and compared to original specs where the originals were consistent and they are spot on. Now where the Beck Lister is much different from the original is in the frame and mechanicals, interior, and windscreen. Now for a truely original replica of a Lister there is a company called Tempero (www.temperocars.com) that makes aluminium replica but I assume that would be big bucks.

[DunsterSwiftSE3]

I love the alternative kits and I have an Ultima Mk.2 along with a BEVA, a couple of DIVA's and the Victor Coupe.

[LMH]

Originally Posted by need4speed

I can't comment on the 550 but the mold for the older Beck Listers were taken from an original but were slightly elongated to allow a few more inches of cabin room. Profile differences are really not visible. Also with the original Listers almost no two were exactly alike, some had different hood profiles to suit the engine and intake system differences (Jag 6, Chevy V8 with injection stacks, etc.), higher rear decks for larger fuel cells, some had the hood and door seams separate and some had them as the same seam. I have also taken a fair number of measurements of my Beck Lister and compared to original specs where the originals were consistent and they are spot on. Now where the Beck Lister is much different from the original is in the frame and mechanicals, interior, and windscreen. Now for a truely original replica of a Lister there is a company called Tempero (www.temperocars.com) that makes aluminium replica but I assume that would be big bucks.

No offense intended at all. The thing I don't like about Becks car is the low rear deck. I know Brian Lister made hood/front changes depending on what power plant was used but every original Knobbly I've seen has the high rear deck. The rear fender fades away gradually as you move towards the rear and the rear deck trailing edge is just a little lower than the top of the rear fender. Beck doesn't use an original style windscreen for obvious reasons of registration but the original windscreen is beautiful where it wraps around and ties into the rear fender. In profile, with the windscreen, the original is really beautiful and I think thats the part Beck missed out on. Just my opinion of course.
The Lister I wish he would have copied is the Costin. Just about the sexiest car I ever seen! Maybe someday someone will.
Larry

[ffindling]

Originally Posted by LMH

The Lister I wish he would have copied is the Costin. Just about the sexiest car I ever seen! Maybe someday someone will.
Larry

It looks like Rod Tempero is building a number of great cars in aluminum no
less! Lister Costin, DBR2, Low drag E-type coupe to name a few. The 250 Testarossa under construction looks very impressive. Having any of these
in my garage sitting next to my never-to-be-acquired Lotus 49 would be a
rare privelege indeed!

....Fred

[Jim Zagg]

I have seen the cobra kits that R MOTORSPORTS sells up close. I really think that the space frame they use is the only way to go! Sure do wish I would have bought one! Their prices are very reasonable and JAMIE is a real GO FAST CAR GUY! Rumor has it they are working on a COBRA for BIG GUYS to fit into!

[LMH]

Wow, I hadn't looked at Tempero in quite a while. He is building a short-nose D Jag as well as a Lister-Costin! Very nice.
Of course, I'd be LIVING in the Jag if I were to buy one!
Larry

[ZOERA-SC7XX]

Does anyone offer a McLaren Can Am type kit?

[Kramer]

I will have to take a look at the magazines I have around the house, but I thought I saw something recently.

After years of "tinkering" with motocycles I have realized I get just as much if not more satisfaction from building as I do driving. That being the case, after I get done with the ERA in the next year or so I already know I am going to want to build something like a vintage mclaren, noble or something else I can really have some fun with a the track.

Kramer

[Kramer]

After a quick look around the house, I found the October issue of Kit Car Builider....I don't know if it exactly what you were thinking about but interesting non the less...here is the link for race car replicas..
http://www.racecarreplicas.com

ps...here is another site you may want to check out.

http://www.kitcarsforum.com/

Kramer

[ZOERA-SC7XX]

Thanks! No Mclarens, but some nice food for thought.

[LMH]

Are thinking of the M8 series cars?
I haven't seen one of those but it would be cool!
Larry

[Jim Zagg]

That new Brute in KIT CAR BUILDER with a BIG small block and a TREMEC would be a REAL BLAST to drive. They build them with a lightweight space frame and an 8.8 Ford rear. If I was not a COBRA GUY I would have to have one!