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12-16-2010, 03:19 PM
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Superformance 12/15/2010 - Press Release
Superformance “Coyote Cobra” Blends Old and New
Irvine, CA – With one award-winning crate engine application under their belts, the folks at Superformance have added another new engine option to the order sheet of their MKIII that is sure to ignite the passions of blue oval fans everywhere. The recently released 5.0-liter “Coyote” engine introduced in the 2011 Mustang GT is now available in the Superformance MKIII, offering modern economy, emissions, tractability, durability and reliability in this iconic lightweight roadster. And with 412 horsepower on tap, the 2,300 pound MKIII should outperform just about anything else on the road too.
The Coyote engine option joins the previously announced General Motors Performance Parts E-ROD engine package, which won the Editor's Award from Kit Car Builder magazine in its public debut. While some customers will always prefer a tried and true carbureted V8 in their Cobra replica, these modern engines provide a more usable alternative for folks who want to drive their MKIII every day. Just hop in, turn the key and drive away – enjoying outstanding performance, no hassles registration and excellent fuel economy as well.
These modern crate engine packages answer the concerns of those who may be hesitant to enter the kit car hobby due to fear of registration difficulties. It's a simple way to have the performance you expect from a classic roadster, with none of the hassles. With a simple turn of the key you have 400-plus emissions-compliant horsepower under your right foot any time you want it. Fast and reliable, with the fuel economy and low emissions of a new Mustang or Corvette, the Coyote and E-ROD Cobras outperform expectations and just about anything else on the road.
Available today from your local Superformance dealership, the Superformance Cobra MKIII with the Coyote crate engine brings modern technology to classic sports car enthusiasts.
About Superformance
Superformance LLC is a distributor for complete, "Rolling Chassis" replica and continuation race cars of the 1960's. Superformance has distributed specially constructed cars in the United States for over 12 years. As one of the first players in the industry, Superformance has over 20 independent dealerships throughout the world. Superformance has earned its reputation with their attention to detail, quality, craftsmanship, fit, finish and customer service.
Superformance LLC has a long-standing relationship and build contract with Hi-Tech Automotive, the world's largest specialty car production facility. Together Superformance and Hi-Tech have produced and distributed more than 4000 rolling chassis worldwide. You can find more information about Superformance and its products at www.superformance.com
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12-16-2010, 10:01 PM
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Does the coyote engine require a catalyst to meet emissions? Does it come with a catalytic converter?
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12-16-2010, 11:34 PM
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You can really see the difference in size between the LS3 and the Coyote in the pictures.
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12-17-2010, 08:32 AM
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This is a homerun for SPF, 50 state emission compliance, no registration or inspection worries. I cannot wait until they put some together and we get feedback on power, sound etc.
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12-17-2010, 10:48 AM
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Seeing the Thread Headline I was relieved that it wasn't about a price increase of, oh, say $10,000 or so...
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12-17-2010, 01:27 PM
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SPF may have figured out their future customers are fuel injected oriented. All these older guys on the forum got the company going but the younger generation mid 30's and up will keep it going. Fuel injection is so sweeeeeet, easy starting, no smell of fuel, high reving, glassy smooth, etc. I wonder being bored today what it would cost to retrofit an old spf with the new powertrain. It is just a matter of new motor mounts or has the entire engine compartment been reworked.
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12-17-2010, 01:55 PM
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maxx, it is my understanding that newer generation SPF engine compartments were done to accommodate a Ford mod motor installation and that the primary modification was to relocate the steering shaft and links closer to the left side. I do not know at what point they started this (I know just enough of each brand to be dangerous with the knowledge). Otherwise the basic frame hasn't really changed.
The Coyote does look wider in the car. The mandatory use of cats is probably one of the more difficult accommodations, but it appears they have that nailed down, too.
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12-17-2010, 02:36 PM
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This Coyote Engine will fit in most SPF Models...new or old. If you have any questions regarding the install, V's Auto Repair and Performance in Orange, CA 92865 did this install, along with the LS3 EROD Install, you can contact him directly if you have any questions at (714) 654-2708
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12-17-2010, 02:37 PM
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From Ford Racing 2010 Catalog -
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...KeyField=11829
When can we hear a video clip of this installed in an SPF?
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12-17-2010, 03:03 PM
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The Coyote motor shares many attributes of the current Modular motor configuration. It's not very long but it is wide, "Boss 429 wide", and then some.
To make this motor fit, Hi-Tech first narrowed the Superformance foot boxes and moved the entire steering shaft over as well as other modifications to fit the modular motor starting with car #2028, which left the factory on 10/19/2004.
Then towards the end of 2005 (in the car 2200-ish range), the steering shaft was moved outwards once more which also required a notch to be made in the inner fenderwell.
I doubt the Coyote engine will fit in the cars built prior to #2028 or before October of 2004.
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12-17-2010, 05:26 PM
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Wow tough decision. Need to do the numbers, sell what I have and price new one and see cost, convert existing. Does not seam to make sense to convert existing since it is in perfect shape. Cant wait until we hear some sound bites and owner feedback.
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12-17-2010, 10:22 PM
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I think you would be better off to sell the old one and buy new roller unless you were in need of a new engine in your existing Cobra. I would expect the catalysts would dampen the sound significantly. I still want to see the 427 Coyote, Yee-Haww!
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12-17-2010, 10:52 PM
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New Engines
I think you can go down to the local Ford store and get one for less money, I think they call it a Mustang. Run and drive pretty well from what I here. Could be something to try till they have some built.
HaHa
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12-17-2010, 10:57 PM
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It's an interesting option for an engine choice. I certainly wouldn't go out of my way to get one, nor would that option inspire me in any way as to the choice of vehicle I might purchase. It's just another motor option, nothing special here that I can see...
So, your at the local cruise in on a Saturday night. Of course they are a BUNCH of 'Stangs there, 90% with a modular V8. The Cyote doesn't look substantially different than anybody else's modular V8. All in various shades of "custom" this and that, colored wire loom's, chrome radiator caps, etc. etc. Seen one, seen 'em all...
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12-19-2010, 01:14 PM
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Lance brought the car over to our local Cars and Coffee show and it was really nice and was running the factory side pipes. When he fired up that motor and goosed it a few times it sounded very similar to my 408W so I doubt he's running any sort of cats in the exhaust system.
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12-22-2010, 03:29 AM
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Randall, the car just needs to be ordered with the MOD motor option. -- that takes care of it. -- I would not look at the coyote 5.0L as a restrofit in an existing chassis, I think the focus of this release is new SPFs
keep in mind the coyote as released is not their version of the erod, it has not been certified as a emissions legal combination, only the Erod series has, - I look forward to Ford going down this pathway , but it has not happened.
I see either choice as a great thing for the enthusiast for his car, no carbs to mess with. -- you have to love that. stable ignition systems. --- an even bigger WIN!
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12-22-2010, 09:24 AM
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...the car just needs to be ordered with the MOD motor option. -- that takes care of it. -- I would not look at the coyote 5.0L as a restrofit in an existing chassis, I think the focus of this release is new SPFs...
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Steve, as an installer you will be pleased to know that there are no production modifications or changes needed in order to fit the new modular motors into the current or previously built cars back to 2004. The only thing needed is to select the appropriate engine mounts and headers just like you do with any of the other engine selections.
As I previously mentioned , *all* Superformance cars already have the narrowed foot boxes and steering shafts moved over to fit the wider engines as STANDARD EQUIPMENT starting with car #2028, which left the factory on 10/19/2004. And then towards the end of 2005 (in the car 2200-ish range), the steering shaft was moved outwards *once more* which also required a notch to be made in the inner fenderwell for even more room.
This is not an option, but rather a standard feature on the Superformance Mk-III's. However, I doubt the Coyote engine will fit in the cars built prior to #2028 or before October of 2004.
Randall
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12-22-2010, 11:24 AM
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I feel what the erod and coyate offer is drivability. Clean burning fuel injection, glassy smooth idle and the ability to rev.
In the last two weeks I have improved by cold and hot start drivability. Cold start by cleaning the air bypass venturi's and hot start by lowering the float levels to eliminate the vapor lock when starting warm. An ancillary benefit to the float level being lowered is the residual odor in my garage after shutting off has been reduced by 75% that is a huge home run.
Currently I average about 11mpg, the erod and coyate would probably be double that.
I think any company has to look at technology for the next generation buying cobras and gt40's, spf has hit a homerun offering these options. Now they need to focus on making them water tight.
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12-22-2010, 12:21 PM
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Now they need to focus on making them water tight.
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A "water-tight" Cobra is called a Corvette.............
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12-22-2010, 03:15 PM
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Had a corvette, worse pos of the 40 cars I have owned. I still have a bad taste in my mouth after 13 years since I sold it I will never own one again. By the way besides the plethora of other items which failed on it the wiper motor did also so even though it was water tight, I couldn't see out of it at least not on low speed wipers.
Couldn't stop one time either when the master cylinder failed. No wonder gm went bankrupt.
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A "water-tight" Cobra is called a Corvette.............
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