Newbie - Engine Question - Page 3

littlewave · #41 (**permalink**) 12-27-2012, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by WardL

OK, now I have to say... it is so funny to me that we all think what WE have is the best! I think it is silly to say "Oh, you need a big block engine to be more original". But nothing is said of the improved suspension, MSD ignition, raidial tires, fiberglass body, electric fans, etc. I guess we can agree to disagree.

Not me!! LOL!!!!!

Dwight · #42 (**permalink**) 12-27-2012, 07:59 AM

but it's small block 427?

dwight

littlewave · #43 (**permalink**) 12-27-2012, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dwight

but it's small block 427?

dwight

Dwight, I am not sure if you are talking to me but no, stock bore and stroke 351. 8 stack efi about 425 hp and 412 tq. But I know what I have. But seems like if you have a Street Beasts you are considered a bottom feeder. I like my car a lot and I even drove a BB FE 427 Kirkham..... GREAT GREAT car!!! I have not had a chance to drive my car yet(not finished) but with all the work and looking at it can't even think I won't enjoy it. Sorry to ramble..

twobjshelbys · #44 (**permalink**) 12-27-2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by WardL

If I had to do it again, I would look at a BOSS 5.0 or the 5.0 Coyote.

How directly will a modern Ford crate engine fit? Will the hood clear? Do the engine mounts align properly?

If so and you're looking to reduce your tinker factor, a modern engine is nice. As with all primarily mechanical systems, things will fail - e.g., distributor and/or cap, and there seems to be a frequent fallout of the MSD (or equivalent) electronic ignitions too. All of that stuff goes away with a Coyote.

How do they deal with the rest of the "Cobra" look and feel? Are there side pipe exhaust systems, etc. for them? Or are they custom from a muffler shop? I'd still want it to SOUND like a Cobra. The ECU on them pretty much depends on O2 sensors before and after the cat, is custom tuning available? And what kind of stuff gets in the way of emissions tests when you do that?

I'm asking because I truly don't know. I know there is a topic somewhere about putting a Coyote in a SPF but I don't think it answered those questions.

DanMartin · #45 (**permalink**) 12-27-2012, 03:28 PM

Superformance MKIII with a Cayote motor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSlHi7b0rwk

I'm sure it runs and drives real nice, with lots of power, economy, and great driveability. Easy to live with I'm sure.

However...it doesn't sound right to me, which is a deal-breaker. But that's just me. Nothing like the sound of an FE to me.

WardL · #46 (**permalink**) 12-27-2012, 10:19 PM

All good questions I don't know the answers.

JBCOBRA · #47 (**permalink**) 12-28-2012, 08:53 AM

After driving Cobras with the pedals coming up from the floor and down from the top like SPF, I realized the driving comfort advantage of the SPF. On long drives in my SPF, I really appreciate not having the pedals in the way and find it much more comfortable as I can move my left foot to wherever I want or even switch feet on the gas pedal.

Cobra Braggin' · #48 (**permalink**) 06-21-2013, 09:46 AM

Hey Matt. I know it's been quite a while since I made the original post and since your response. But, I just wanted to say thanks for your input. I'm still working on getting the cash for my new SPF MKIII but I have made some conclusions based on your comments and all of the other wise experience Cobra owners here in Club Cobra.

Since I live in NC less than 2 hrs form Dennis Olthoff Racing I have decided before I actually order my SPF, I'll visit him, take a test drive, and take some lessons on how to properly drive and handle these great and powerful machines. Also, I'm going to get my drive train from Keith Craft. I think for the money and service, he's the best.

Because I want my SPF as mostly a daily driver, I'll most likely go with the best small block 351 windsor stroker or something like that. Since I want to be comfortable on the street, and I haven't had lots of experience with really high performance muscle cars, I think 400 to 450 HP and foot pounds of torque is plenty for me. To be honest, I'm not car expert and certainly not a builder. I just love the timeless classic look of the Cobra and the fact that I would be able go really fast when I want too. Thanks again Matt...

Chris
AKA/"Cobra Braggin"

Great Asp · #49 (**permalink**) 06-21-2013, 06:52 PM

OP, I have owned three Superformance Cobras. The first was a 351W with 400 hp, the second with a 351 bored and stroked to a 418, 550 HP. My current SPF has a 496 FE motor with 666 lb-ft torque.

If you have not owned a Cobra before, and you want to drive your car comfortably, a 400+ hp 351W based motor is an easier car to drive than a BB with big torque numbers.

Most of the dealers will direct you to a 351W based motor for the same reason, it is easier to drive without as much chance it will get away from you.

I am not trying to tell you what to buy, only what I know.

LOL at the ERA owners thinking their car is 'more original". Who cares? (besides you?)

Good luck on your build OP!

E

mattpatt · #50 (**permalink**) 06-21-2013, 08:47 PM

Just caught this Cobra Braggin

I've been very impressed with KC in terms of customer service (especially when something was wrong and replacement parts were needed). My limited research indicated all the same good parts as Rousch, for noticeably less (allowing me to upgrade to all aluminum). That said, I understand that a 427 Roush SBF runs a bit smoother than a KC (they do a lot of circle track engines). I've done some carb tuning and added vacuum advance (highly recommended for any engine) that smoothed things out a bit. Still a bit bucky during coast but the carb still isn't tuned right. Remember that my 427 is at ~1.3 HP/ci (kinda high). Meanwhile, full throttle from ~3500 rpm is downright exciting! Your choice of a bit lower HP/inch will reward you with really smooth daily driving and extreme fun when you want it. Believe me!

Keep us informed of your progress. Great thrills await you!

Matt

Cobra Braggin' · #51 (**permalink**) 06-22-2013, 11:03 AM

Hey E. Your good experience information is much appreciated!!! The fact that you have owned 3 SPF's, means to me that your advice and comments are really coming from an informed place. I can't wait to experience the fun and thills that you and all the other Cobra owners have!

P.S. I also believe your absolutely right, as long as I'm happy with my dream car that all that matters!

Cheers!
Chris

Cobra Braggin' · #52 (**permalink**) 06-22-2013, 11:38 AM

Thanks Matt! I joined this club site last year because I knew everyone here were true car experts and enthusiasts. I really want to enjoy my Cobra when that glorious day comes and I pick it up. So, your advice, suggestions, and valuble input are very much appreciated.

I'm definitely not a car expert like all of you guys, but I am a true enthusiast and I've learned a lot here in Club Cobra. It's because of this that when I finally get my SPF, I know I'll be happy. I'll keep you posted for sure. Thanks again....

Cheers!
Chris