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12-16-2013, 10:23 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Granite Bay,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF GT40P-2265/393W, KMP318 (PROJECT!!!!!)/CSX478
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Superformance MSO
I won't get into why I"m asking, but if any of you have delt with the state of California, you may already know.
Is there anyone who's MSO does NOT say the car is a "1966"? From speaking with various involved parties...I doubt there are many of you. In fact, I expect that every, or nearly every one says the same thing...unless specifically requested.
Remember, this is for Superformance cars only.
If you are wary, for some reason, feel free to reply by email or PM
Thanks.
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Ron R
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12-16-2013, 10:51 AM
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It doesn't matter if the MSO has 1966 on it.
You're going to have to go through the SPCN for registration and SB100 for emission.
SPCN will register the year as 0000 and SB100 go by the body style not the engine year.
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12-16-2013, 11:44 AM
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Rich,
Thanks for taking the time to respond.
I've been through the SB100 process several times, and unfortunately know the rules better than some of the inspectors .
Anyway, right now I"m trying to get some very specific information. I'll leave it at that, for the time being.
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Ron R
"Dishwasher? I thought that was for cleaning parts!?"
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12-16-2013, 06:04 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Redding,
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR chassis and suspension, Mr. Bruce 289 FIA body
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If you're trying to register it as a 1966 car, forget it. It isn't. Trying to do so constitutes fraud.
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12-16-2013, 06:07 PM
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Bill,
Not to worry, I'm not trying to do anything of the sort.
Again, please, no speculation.
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Ron R
"Dishwasher? I thought that was for cleaning parts!?"
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12-16-2013, 06:12 PM
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Rich,
Same thing, please don't try to guess what I'm up to. Nothing nefarious, mind you, but what your MSO says may absolutely matter....depending on who you speak to at the state level, and how they interpret the statutes.
When I get through this, I'll provide a thorough explanation of what and why, but until then, please don't try to guess...it will only slow things down further.
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Ron R
"Dishwasher? I thought that was for cleaning parts!?"
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12-16-2013, 06:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich A
It doesn't matter if the MSO has 1966 on it.
You're going to have to go through the SPCN for registration and SB100 for emission.
SPCN will register the year as 0000 and SB100 go by the body style not the engine year.
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In theory, this is how it works.....in theory, anyway.
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Ron R
"Dishwasher? I thought that was for cleaning parts!?"
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12-16-2013, 06:17 PM
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get out of that sheet hole bankrupt state. there so smart in CA the beg the pathetic us government to help keep the lights on. They are the criminals not some guy registering his car so he can pay thousands in taxes....
fuk them!!!
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12-16-2013, 06:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by madmaxx
get out of that sheet hole bankrupt state. there so smart in CA the beg the pathetic us government to help keep the lights on. They are the criminals not some guy registering his car so he can pay thousands in taxes....
fuk them!!!
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+1...wish I could.
But lets not go on a tangent. Focus, everyone.
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12-16-2013, 07:13 PM
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Call hillbanks they are a SPF dealer in ca I am sure they are intimate with ca titling procedure.
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12-16-2013, 07:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by madmaxx
Call hillbanks they are a SPF dealer in ca I am sure they are intimate with ca titling procedure.
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Been there, done that.
PS Knowlege of the SB100/SPCNS process is not the issue. I've been through it all before.
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"Dishwasher? I thought that was for cleaning parts!?"
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12-16-2013, 07:55 PM
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My first spf MSO said 2008. In fact they asked what year I wanted. I wanted 2008 to register as an assembled vehicle.
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12-16-2013, 08:01 PM
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Sorry it says 1965 replica. I just checked.
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12-16-2013, 11:34 PM
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My MSO says Year: 2007. Model: Replica 1965 AC MKIII. It was sold in 2007. I am most of the way through the SPCN registration and have spent $125 more than it would have cost to register a daily driver valued at the same amount. 2608 was first sold by a Louisiana SPF dealer in 2007, I bought 2608 from a guy in Florida, registered it in Washington State and am now registering it in California.
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12-17-2013, 09:20 AM
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Ward,
Your MSO says 1965 replica? Thankyou, that is helpful.
To clarify, I'm interested in what year your MSO says it replicates, not the year of manufacture (which will be a more modern date).
Also, to be useful, the carb and air pump data I'm interested in is specific to FORD small block v8s.
Thanks.
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Ron R
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12-17-2013, 10:34 AM
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Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Carlsbad,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Previous owner of SPF#1938, with a Keith Craft 496ci Genesis 427 side oiler, 667 FWHP, 633 FWTQ, 560 RWHP, 550 RWTQ.
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12-17-2013, 11:04 AM
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Guys,
You are confusing MSO with the TITLE. The MSO is only issued by the manufacturer and is the "birth certificate" if you will of the car. A second owner will never see the MSO unless the original purchaser made a copy. The original MSO must be surrendered to the DMV when the vehicle is titled.
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12-17-2013, 08:41 PM
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Location: Laguna Hills,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance SPO2820 408W; former ERA CCX 3-3408 owner
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My MSO said "1965 Replica".
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12-17-2013, 09:37 PM
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The MSO for SPO1980 lists the year as a "1965 Replica."
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12-18-2013, 09:50 AM
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I have a copy of my MSO and good thing as I needed it for the California Highway Patrol to register the Cobra in California. I think it is a good idea to always get a copy of the MSO for your files.
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