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10-27-2006, 07:21 PM
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PA Registration Photos Question
For you guys that registered your car in PA as a Specially Constructed Vehicle, for the 4 pictures needed to be submitted, did you have a top on it with the side curtains on and metal heat shields on the side pipes? Or did they register it without those details? Ps. Ceramic coating classifies as a form of a heat shield
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10-27-2006, 07:33 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance, 434, Paxton blown
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I submitted 1 set of photos without the top on and another set of 4 with the side cutains and top on. I was told that it was very important that there was no glare, reflections, on the windows. I think it is a tint issue. I did not have heat shields on in either sets of the photos. I had both sets initials and dated by an inspection mechanic.
Mike
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10-27-2006, 08:49 PM
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I will need to register my almost finished Cobra soon in PA. Do you need a Convertable top and heat shields on the sidepipes for registration?:
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10-27-2006, 08:54 PM
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I think the PA DMV page, web site, has the info you are looking for. My car is registered. It has a top and side curtains but no heat shields.
Mike
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10-27-2006, 08:59 PM
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I will check it out thanks, but do they require a soft top?
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10-27-2006, 10:42 PM
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Here is some info from the web site.
§ 175.220. Inspection procedure.
(a) External inspection. An external inspection shall be performed as follows:
(1) Verify ownership, legality and proof of financial responsibility. For the purpose of this subchapter, ownership and legality shall be proven by a vehicle registration card, certificate of title or manufacturer’s statement of origin. Reject if one or more of the following apply:
(i) When vehicle ownership and legality are demonstrated by presentation of certificate of title or manufacturer’s statement of origin:
(A) The VIN is not in agreement with the vehicle registration card, title or manufacturer’s statement of origin. Exception: If only one digit is incorrect or two digits are transposed, and the owner provides evidence that the appropriate Department form has been completed to correct an error or transposition.
(B) The VIN plate is not securely fastened or is defaced, misplaced or missing.
(ii) When vehicle ownership and legality are demonstrated by presentation of vehicle registration card:
(A) The license plate is not in agreement with numbers on vehicle registration card. If only one digit is incorrect or two digits are transposed, and the owner provides evidence that the appropriate Department form has been completed to correct an error or transposition, this clause does not apply.
(B) The license plate is hanging loosely from its mounting bracket.
(C) The license plate is obscured so that the numbers cannot be identified.
(D) The license plate lamp, if so equipped, does not illuminate the license plate.
(iii) Acceptable proof of financial responsibility is not provided. For the purpose of this chapter, financial responsibility shall be proven by one of the following documents:
(A) A valid financial responsibility identification card issued in accordance with 31 Pa. Code (relating to insurance).
(B) The declaration page of a valid insurance policy.
(C) A valid self-insurance identification card.
(D) A valid binder of insurance issued by an insurance company licensed to sell motor vehicle liability insurance in this Commonwealth.
(E) A valid insurance policy issued by an insurance company licensed to sell motor vehicle liability insurance in this Commonwealth.
(2) Check the windshield and reject if one or more of the following apply:
(i) A windshield is less than 7 inches in vertical height on a street rod.
(ii) A windshield is less than 12 inches in vertical height, or the vertical height is less than what was originally designed, on a reconstructed or specially constructed vehicle.
(iii) The windshields and side windows or openings do not allow the driver minimum outward horizontal vision capability of 90° from each side of vertical plane passing through fore and aft centerline of vehicle.
(iv) The range of vision is interrupted by window framing exceeding 2 inches in width and windshield door post support areas exceeding 4 inches in width.
(v) Obstructions except windshield wiper components of more than 2 inches upward into horizontally projected vision area of the windshield is found.
(3) Check the fenders and reject if one or more of the following apply:
(i) The fenders do not cover the entire tire tread width of tire that comes in contact with the road surface.
(ii) The front tire tread circumference coverage is less than 15° to the front and 75° to the rear of each tire.
(iii) The rear tire tread circumference coverage is less than 75°.
(4) Check the bumpers and reject if one or more of the following apply:
(i) The front or rear bumper is missing.
(ii) Some part of the horizontal bumper does not fall within 12-20 inches above the ground level on the street rods, specially constructed vehicles and reconstructed passenger vehicles.
(5) Check the lights and reject if the vehicle does not have operating hazard warning lamps capable of being seen and distinguished during nighttime operations at a distance of 500 feet.
(b) Internal inspection. An internal inspection shall be performed as follows:
(1) Check the mirrors and reject if the mirrors for the operator are insufficient to view front and both sides and rear of vehicle for distance not less than 200 feet.
(2) Check the unconventional operation location and reject if all the major controls and switches are not conveniently located for use by the driver while in an unconventional operating position.
(c) Under the hood inspection. An under the hood inspection shall be performed as follows:
(1) Check the hood and reject if the street rod hood does not cover the top of the entire engine compartment.
(2) Check the brake system and reject if any of the following apply:
(i) The dual service brake system is not installed when the original system was modified.
(ii) The dual service brake system is not installed on the vehicle with the rear tires exceeding 9 inches in width.
(d) Beneath the vehicle inspection. A beneath the vehicle inspection shall be performed as follows:
(1) Inspect the tires and reject if any of the following apply:
(i) The front tires measure less than 5 inches in width on the street rods.
(ii) The rear tires exceed 9 inches in width and the vehicle is not equipped with a dual service brake system.
(2) Inspect the scrub line and reject if any of the following chassis and suspension components are below the scrub line:
(i) The frame.
(ii) The axle.
(iii) The axle housing.
(iv) The lower control bar.
(v) The shock mounts.
(vi) The crossmembers.
(vii) The torsion bar.
(viii) The radius rods.
(ix) The spindle arms.
(x) The steering components.
(xi) The brake components.
(xii) The spring perch bolts.
Authority
The provisions of this § 175.220 amended under the Vehicle Code, 75 Pa.C.S. § § 4103, 4301, 4501, 4521, 4702 and 6103.
Source
The provisions of this § 175.220 adopted October 29, 1982, effective February 1, 1983, 12 Pa.B. 3862; corrected November 12, 1983, 12 Pa.B. 3947; readopted December 2, 1988, effective December 3, 1988, 18 Pa.B. 5362; amended February 18, 1994, effective February 19, 1994, 24 Pa.B. 962; amended November 13, 1998, effective May 13, 1999, 28 Pa.B. 5670. Immediately preceding text appears at serial pages (221325) to (221328).
Cross References
This section cited in 67 Pa. Code § 175.203 (relating to braking systems); 67 Pa. Code § 175.206 (relating to glazing); 67 Pa. Code § 175.207 (relating to mirrors); and 67 Pa. Code § 175.208 (relating to body).
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Mike
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10-28-2006, 04:40 AM
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My four pictures were with no top
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10-31-2006, 06:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JBCOBRA
My four pictures were with no top
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Your response online said that your pictures were all sent with no top. How long did the registration take and was it rejected and need to be resent at any time? Please share all you can. Anything I should watch out for? Thanks!
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10-31-2006, 06:51 PM
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I'm pretty confident that in any state that requires an inspection and photo submission you don't want a top or any mention of it anywhere. As a roadster (no top) you will remove many requirements such as a defroster, outside door handles, etc.
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11-01-2006, 03:19 AM
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Rob
You don't need a top. defroster or handles. You do need heat shields and some type of bumper in pic. The four pics need to be in sunlight and clearly showing the F,R. and sides. They need to be signed on back by the inspecting mechanic.
IF you completely and accurately fill out the 426B form, including the pre inspection, including the Pa sticker requirements, it will take 45-60 days. They have a bad habit of sitting on mistakes for several weeks and then sending it back to start over again.
I think when you and I spoke sometime ago I gave you the name and phone number of the final sign off guy in the DMV.
Jack
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