Push Button Start in SPF

[Archrms]

With regards to the security issues some have expressed by eliminating the keyed ignition; I saw a product in a motorcycle catolog for a relay that is activated by the proximity of a remote key fob. If the fob is not within ten feet of the relay, it will not complete the circuit. This sounds like it might be a good idea, but I don't know if there is a similar product for a 12V car system, or if the 6V can be modified to work in a car. Sounds like it might be a good solution for a push button system that eliminates the keyed switch.

[Venamm]

Originally Posted by Archrms

With regards to the security issues some have expressed by eliminating the keyed ignition; I saw a product in a motorcycle catolog for a relay that is activated by the proximity of a remote key fob. If the fob is not within ten feet of the relay, it will not complete the circuit. This sounds like it might be a good idea, but I don't know if there is a similar product for a 12V car system, or if the 6V can be modified to work in a car. Sounds like it might be a good solution for a push button system that eliminates the keyed switch.

I'm glad you brought that up. I tripped across a Utube video of a guy showing his Cobra (that sounds wrong) and he demonstrated the FOB system. It activated power to the car, then he hit the hot red "start" button.
I cant find that video on Utube anymore. If anyone can link let me know or please post it.

Another version would be the 3 step version I also like which is 1- battery safety key 2-toggle switch for fuel pump 3- start button

[DRBB]

did you guys know corvette uses fop and start button? maybe this might be a source to search. sorry i wouldn't know how to search im not much of a chevy kind of guy.

[427sharpe]

You guys shold look at the button from a Honda S2000--good looking, very popular and easy to wire. Info all over the net.

[Archrms]

I spoke to a tach at Digital Guard Dawg with regards to their keyless security system. Seems that they do have an automotive version, and that there is an optional push button that comes with the RF relay.

He explained operation as follows:
1. Relay is activated either by proximity or button on fob
2. Once relay is activated, push button can be used to start engine.
3. There is a 20 second time delay to start engine once relay is activated, or you will have to re-activate it.
4. Once engine is started it must be turned off manually. The RF relay can not turn it off either on purpose or by accident - (in case the fob goes out the window or the button is pushed by accident).

The push button that is included with the RF relay:
1. Has a ring around the button that glows either blue or red.
2. A partial push of the button activates the ACC circuit, and another partial push deactivates the ACC.
3. A full push of the button activates the starter. A second full push kills the engine.

I am waiting for the tech to send me a wiring schematic for the product to see how to integrate it into the car. If anyone has any other questions regarding operation or installation let me know and I will pass it along to the tech to get an answer. Cost for button and RF relay was $279, and for RF relay only was $189.

[FST FOX]

Originally Posted by DRBB

did you guys know corvette uses fop and start button? maybe this might be a source to search. sorry i wouldn't know how to search im not much of a chevy kind of guy.

Lots of cars are using the FOB method, not just corvettes

[autoxmike]

I installed a push button on my Cobra when it was built. For security, I installed a latching relay for all electrical. It goes between the battery and almost all of the electrical. The latching realy is controlled by a generic remote control key fob. Atually, the fob recevier controlls a smaller relay, which control the big latching relay, becuase the fob recevier can not directly power the latching realy because it draws to much current.

Push a button on the fob and the electric to the Cobra is turned on, hit the fob again and all electric is turned off. I also installed a hidden button that does the same thing as the fob - push once to turn everything on, again to turn off.

Most of the generic remote fob have at least 4 channels (min has 6), so I used the other channels to pop the doors, hood, and trunk.

[Venamm]

Originally Posted by autoxmike

I installed a push button on my Cobra when it was built. For security, I installed a latching relay for all electrical. It goes between the battery and almost all of the electrical. The latching realy is controlled by a generic remote control key fob. Atually, the fob recevier controlls a smaller relay, which control the big latching relay, becuase the fob recevier can not directly power the latching realy because it draws to much current.

Push a button on the fob and the electric to the Cobra is turned on, hit the fob again and all electric is turned off. I also installed a hidden button that does the same thing as the fob - push once to turn everything on, again to turn off.

Most of the generic remote fob have at least 4 channels (min has 6), so I used the other channels to pop the doors, hood, and trunk.

Mike,
That's exactly what I am looking for. where can I purchase that system please?

[autoxmike]

Originally Posted by Venamm

Mike,
That's exactly what I am looking for. where can I purchase that system please?

I do not know of a "system" like this that is sold with all the parts & directions. I bought the push button start switch, remote key fob & receiver, and latching relay seperatly. The electrical wiring is pretty simple. I designed the schematic in my head, wired it up, and filed the schemtic away somewhere in my head.....

[Hammer65]

Try http://www.digitalguarddawg.com/