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03-04-2008, 09:29 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Livermore,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2168, 418, TKO 600
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SPF Seatbelt latch issues
Has anyone ever had any problems unlatching there lap belt after a drive. I have had no problems with belts until yesterday. I came back form a drive and could not unlatch myself. I had to ask my wife for a screw driver to pry the latch open.
This made me start thinking that if I was in accident and had to get out in a hurry, I would be in screwed.
Has this happened to anyone else? Any possible fixes?
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03-04-2008, 09:42 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF #867 gone....
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That's a new one on me, haven't heard that before.
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03-04-2008, 10:33 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Germantown, TN,
Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance #770, Stroked 351W (393 cubes) w/ Tremec TKO-600, 3.27 Torsen locker, 'Hi-Tech' Blue w/ White Stripes, Wilwoods, Bilstein coil overs...and a big ear-to-ear grin!
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Yes...a couple of times a long time ago - I replaced my duckbill latches with Simpson camlock belts. But...meanwhile, I shot a little teflon lube in the little spring-loaded ball latches that held the duckbill latch closed. They seem to get dry and the oxidation keeps the ball from retracting when you pull on the duckbill. The teflon worked well...no more problems.
Hope this helps...
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WARNING: The opinions expressed herein do not necessarily represent those of the management, editors, or owners. We welcome differing opinions, and recognize our responsibility to offer differing views. May cause drowsiness, restlessness, or irritability. Do not operate heavy machinery while using this product. Void in Alaska, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico, or where prohibited, licensed, or regulated by law. We reserve the right to limit quantities. Offer good while supplies last. No substitutions allowed. Please observe posted speed limits. Professional driver on closed course. Do not try this at home. Please wear your seatbelt at all times. Close cover before striking. Use at own risk. Please dispose of properly. Drink responsibly. Prolonged exposure to vapors has been shown to cause cancer in laboratory animals. Do not use this product of you are pregnant, or plan on becoming pregnant. Intentional misuse by deliberately concentrating and inhaling fumes can be dangerous. Always wear safety glasses. In case of eye contact, flush with water and seek immediate medical attention. For occasional use only as directed. Avoid prolonged skin contact. Discontinue use if rash develops. If symptoms persist for more than three days, seek professional medical attention. Hearing protection required beyond this point. Danger: Hot surfaces. Use as directed. Proceed at own risk. Caution: Filling may be hot. Please don't litter. Actual results may vary. It is a violation of Federal Law to use this product in a manner other than as intended. Do not use this product if you have an enlarged prostate, or have difficulty urinating.
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03-04-2008, 10:37 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2003
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2682, Roush 427
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Is there a spring loaded ball bearing in the latch. If i remember correctly I had to oil mine at one time. I have since switched to rotary camlocks.
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03-04-2008, 10:39 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2682, Roush 427
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Freddie just confirmed. Thanks. See you in June
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03-04-2008, 10:42 AM
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Common Problem
Freddie is right on it, a common problem with anything with moving parts, a drop or two of any oil should fix it. Do like Freddie and spend a couple of bucks and get some nice cam lock belts from G Force, Sparco, or Teamtech. 
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03-04-2008, 10:51 AM
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In have to say that my seat belts also stick and more often than not I'm unable to open them. I carry a pliers so when they stick I use the handle of the pliers and slide it under the latch and lift it up to pop the latch open.
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03-04-2008, 11:14 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance, 434, Paxton blown
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I threaded a rawhide shoe lace through the hole in the latch......tied it so it made a loop. It makes it much easier to open with cold stiff hands.
Mike
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03-04-2008, 11:19 AM
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Location: Yorba Linda,
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Guys, if your factory orginal Deist duckbills are that tough to work loose then you either need to lightly lubricate them or replace them. It's like any other mechanical part...they require lubricant to work properly and they will wear out over time. The last thing you want to worry about in a panic stop and jettison routine (i.e. engine/cabin fire) is whether or not the belts will easily come undone. I'm equally amused by the pliers and shoe lace shade tree fixes, but we're talking about your safety here. 
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03-04-2008, 12:06 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Germantown, TN,
Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance #770, Stroked 351W (393 cubes) w/ Tremec TKO-600, 3.27 Torsen locker, 'Hi-Tech' Blue w/ White Stripes, Wilwoods, Bilstein coil overs...and a big ear-to-ear grin!
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Originally Posted by redbarchetta
"...I'm equally amused by the pliers and shoe lace shade tree fixes, but we're talking about your safety here..."
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...and that's exactly why I replaced my original Diest duckbill-latched belts with a 5-point Simpson camlock system on both seats.
Also...don't forget, guys, your seat belts have a finite life. Sun, rain, and constant abrasion from loosening/tightening them will cause them to become weaker with age - like all of us, I guess. Anyway, SFI and every sanctioning body I know of require replacing your belts every 2* years. It may not be a big issue to you, unless you plan on tracking your car from time to time....but, then again, it's your fanny in there, not mine. I figure there's a reason why they specifiy replacing them every 2* years, and a reason why they're dated from the manufacturers. With as much track time as I put on my car every year, #770's are about to be replaced in the next couple of weeks. I'd sure hate to see anyone lose an entire weekend because their seat belts didn't meet tech....that's sure a crummy way to miss a track time event.
*NOTE: I questioned this after I wrote it, so I did a little web-research...turns out SFI requires recertification of your belts every 2 years, according their 16.1 spec.
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WARNING: The opinions expressed herein do not necessarily represent those of the management, editors, or owners. We welcome differing opinions, and recognize our responsibility to offer differing views. May cause drowsiness, restlessness, or irritability. Do not operate heavy machinery while using this product. Void in Alaska, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico, or where prohibited, licensed, or regulated by law. We reserve the right to limit quantities. Offer good while supplies last. No substitutions allowed. Please observe posted speed limits. Professional driver on closed course. Do not try this at home. Please wear your seatbelt at all times. Close cover before striking. Use at own risk. Please dispose of properly. Drink responsibly. Prolonged exposure to vapors has been shown to cause cancer in laboratory animals. Do not use this product of you are pregnant, or plan on becoming pregnant. Intentional misuse by deliberately concentrating and inhaling fumes can be dangerous. Always wear safety glasses. In case of eye contact, flush with water and seek immediate medical attention. For occasional use only as directed. Avoid prolonged skin contact. Discontinue use if rash develops. If symptoms persist for more than three days, seek professional medical attention. Hearing protection required beyond this point. Danger: Hot surfaces. Use as directed. Proceed at own risk. Caution: Filling may be hot. Please don't litter. Actual results may vary. It is a violation of Federal Law to use this product in a manner other than as intended. Do not use this product if you have an enlarged prostate, or have difficulty urinating.
Last edited by Flyin_Freddie; 03-04-2008 at 01:10 PM..
Reason: Correct time period for recertification
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03-04-2008, 03:05 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Squantum (part of Quincy),
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF1049 Titanium w/black stripes, 351W with Trick Flow Heads, Tremec 3550
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I've never had any problems with the seat belts.
I have some teflon based bicycle chain oil that I use on various parts that move on the Cobra (hinges, trunk support struts, etc).
Its not greasy, does not drip and works great.
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03-04-2008, 04:45 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Tucson,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance 427 Side-Oiler
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Listen to Freddie.How do you think he got his name?His belts failed one day at the track and he became...Flyin' Freddie. 
Fred,How the hell ya been? 
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03-04-2008, 10:27 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Germantown, TN,
Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance #770, Stroked 351W (393 cubes) w/ Tremec TKO-600, 3.27 Torsen locker, 'Hi-Tech' Blue w/ White Stripes, Wilwoods, Bilstein coil overs...and a big ear-to-ear grin!
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Hey Bill...! How are ya...?
Naw..I got my moniker by almost killing myself in a Super Decathalon in front of a bunch of my flying buddies. Boy, did that airplane snap quick...!  ...and it took a LOT longer to recover than I expected.  Had it not been for a depression in the field, I may have been "Pushin'-Up-Daisies Freddie"...!
Moral: Never let your alligator mouth out run...er, "out fly"...your hummingbird ass! 
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"An opinion on everything...an expert at nothin'!"
WARNING: The opinions expressed herein do not necessarily represent those of the management, editors, or owners. We welcome differing opinions, and recognize our responsibility to offer differing views. May cause drowsiness, restlessness, or irritability. Do not operate heavy machinery while using this product. Void in Alaska, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico, or where prohibited, licensed, or regulated by law. We reserve the right to limit quantities. Offer good while supplies last. No substitutions allowed. Please observe posted speed limits. Professional driver on closed course. Do not try this at home. Please wear your seatbelt at all times. Close cover before striking. Use at own risk. Please dispose of properly. Drink responsibly. Prolonged exposure to vapors has been shown to cause cancer in laboratory animals. Do not use this product of you are pregnant, or plan on becoming pregnant. Intentional misuse by deliberately concentrating and inhaling fumes can be dangerous. Always wear safety glasses. In case of eye contact, flush with water and seek immediate medical attention. For occasional use only as directed. Avoid prolonged skin contact. Discontinue use if rash develops. If symptoms persist for more than three days, seek professional medical attention. Hearing protection required beyond this point. Danger: Hot surfaces. Use as directed. Proceed at own risk. Caution: Filling may be hot. Please don't litter. Actual results may vary. It is a violation of Federal Law to use this product in a manner other than as intended. Do not use this product if you have an enlarged prostate, or have difficulty urinating.
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04-16-2008, 11:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyin_Freddie
Anyway, SFI and every sanctioning body I know of require replacing your belts every 2* years. It may not be a big issue to you, unless you plan on tracking your car from time to time....but, then again, it's your fanny in there, not mine. I figure there's a reason why they specifiy replacing them every 2* years, and a reason why they're dated from the manufacturers.
*NOTE: I questioned this after I wrote it, so I did a little web-research...turns out SFI requires recertification of your belts every 2 years, according their 16.1 spec.
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This is just the manufacturers in cahoots with the sanctioning bodies... The belts can withstand more than 24 months of use. It's not like they are sitting the middle of the Mohave for 24 months, they are typically in a garage for 90% of the time.
Think of the revenue. EVERY racer in EVERY body replacing his belts every two years. Damn. Anyway, it should be the driver's choice.
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