Winter project

[Velox]

I guess I missed the Holley I used to have before trying EFI... decided to try another Holley or two





more to follow...

[Got the Bug]

Idle hands, a few bucks, and a serious winter...a dangerous combination.

Looks like a cool project!

[CHRIS DAMSCH]

Was there something wrong with the FI setup or are you just bored?

[Velox]

Originally Posted by CHRIS DAMSCH

Was there something wrong with the FI setup or are you just bored?

A little of both
For several reasons was not real happy with mass-flo although it worked OK. I ended up thinking for as few miles as my weekend SPF gets driven that particular FI just wasn't worth it - too frequent run probs, check engine light, sensor glitches, and to some extent, just couldn't get past the look of it after awhile, all the wiring, computer etc, just not very Cobra-like Saw a member's BBF picture here of a 2x4 Thunder Tiger setup and just knew that was what I wanted to do. I'm sure it will be all kinds of work and tweaking, but at this point IMHO, worth it I'll put some more pics in my gallery as I go and try to update this for those interested.

[Silverback51]

I love my dual 4's.

And I agree, FI on a Cobra just does not look right unless it looks like the Webers.

What carburators are you going to run?

[Velox]

Originally Posted by Silverback51

I love my dual 4's. What carburators are you going to run?

Silverback51 hey NICE setup
A pair of 600's like back-in-the-day
C3AF-9510-BJ and BK from Carls

[Silverback51]

One thing you may want to consider is having the manifold powder coated. You can get a color that is real close to the cast color and then you won't end up with stains like mine has.

It's on my list of things to do this Winter if I get the time.

[dlampe]

If you powder coat it then spill fuel on it when it is hot, it will definately stain. Go "Oh naturale".

You gota love those winter projects!

[john chesnut]

I had my intake manifold Ceramic Coated. This is the same process that is done on headers. It doesn't cost much and the coating makes it easy to clean and keep looking good. I realize that it may be the desired look for you. Just my 2 cents. John

[Silverback51]

Originally Posted by dlampe

If you powder coat it then spill fuel on it when it is hot, it will definately stain. Go "Oh naturale".

You gota love those winter projects!

I didn't know that. Thanks for the information.

[Velox]

Thanks all. I'm planning on leaving it natural finish at this point, will see how it goes I'm cleaning parts and planning things out at this point, I'll post some pics when I get further along

[Clois Harlan]

I have been down this road before. I think I have tried all possible combinations of of carbs and induction. Looking back I think I liked my 2 X 4 set up best although I did have some problems with fuel pick up on some of the big tracks but that was eventually cured with the right fuel bowls. These are some of the fun things we can do with our old dinosour engines without having to use a laptop to set everything up. I haven't tried a 3 X 2 set up yet but that could still happen. I really like the look of 3 X 2 carbs under the hood.

Clois

[Tony Aprile]

Velox...I have my dual quad setup for 5 years now...love it. It runs as good as it looks. The manifold is a blue thunder and the carbs and linkage is from Carls. I left the manifold natural...if fuel leaks on the manifold..carb cleaner takes it right off...no stains.

[Velox]

Tony, your car is the reason I decided to go this route
I was looking through photos on CC awhile back, saw your 2x4 BB pics like you posted here and said "I gotta get me some of that..."

[Tony Aprile]

Originally Posted by Velox

Tony, your car is the reason I decided to go this route
I was looking through photos on CC awhile back, saw your 2x4 BB pics like you posted here and said "I gotta get me some of that..."

V..Thanks for that compliment....as far as the dual quads go....you won't regret it !!

[Velox]

Well mostly remaining below 0 degrees so what better to do than wrench a few...

[Silverback51]

Looking good.

[Tony Aprile]

I agree...

V... what intake manifold gaskets do you use ?? I ask because of the head aches I went through a few years ago when my fel-pros disintergrated around the water jackets !!!

[Velox]

Originally Posted by Tony Aprile

I agree...

V... what intake manifold gaskets do you use ?? I ask because of the head aches I went through a few years ago when my fel-pros disintergrated around the water jackets !!!

The Fel-Pro 1230 is always listed for my Edelbrock Performer RPM heads at parts houses as the standard for 429-460 apps and they are well known to breakdown, slide, slip, distort especially around the water jackets. It seems the 1230 is actually a racing app gasket, not designed for long term use, designed for engines frequently taken apart and rebuilt hence they are quite good for short term but that's it. They have no steel insert. Everybody says get the Victor Reinz NitroSeal gaskets, like 95109SG but I have never been able to find these, not online or at any parts stores near me. Fel-Pro also makes the MS901101 which if you look for it, is readily available, even at Summit etc, and it turns out this is similar to the Victor Reinz, is heavy duty, has a steel insert, and is the one recommended at 460Ford.com so that's what I went with this time. NAPA is said to have the 95109SG but again, I couldn't find any that listed or carried 'em. There are a number of threads on this at 460Ford.com so I put the MS901101 on mine for this project

[Tony Aprile]

V...your on top of your game in the gasket department, after fel-pros and mr gasket both failed, I was informed...probably from the 460ford forum about the Victor Reniz gaskets at NAPA...that was several years ago which I was able to find at the time. Since Dana aquired Victor Reinz the gaskets have been hard to find.

I knew there are steel insert gaskets for the small blocks but was not aware that fel pro now has them for the 385 motors, thats good to know. keep up the good work!