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To be honest, I haven't. I still have quotes coming in for a 427W build. I will most likely be going with a local builder. I would love to put in a Tom Lucas 427SO, but those BB are so loud :) Just fyi his 427SO motor, New Genesis/Pond Block, all top end parts, turn key is less than 15K, all specs on his website. Craig |
Whatever you do, save yourself from some HUGE grief if you go this route, and go with the Pond block. Don't ask me how I know this........:mad:
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Roush, Smeding, Keith Craft, Tom Lucas, Barry at Survival, George Gessford, etc. all have a lot of happy customers here. Sometimes it's all about "the feel" you get when you speak and correspond with people. |
Hi Craig,
Thanks for dropping by the other day and checking out The Kirkham. Just remember, some of those small block`s are noisy too, ha. Good luck in your quest Maurice |
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If you are in the New Jersey area call Stans Dream Garage . He is a Roush dealer and I had my MK III done by him. Perfect in every way . Good price too. He stans behind his work . Most important he can walk you through NJ inspection .
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Granted, Roush is damn expensive.
Worth it? You decide. However,to me, nothing pops the eyes when you open that hood and a polished Roush 427 is staring up at you. :eek: |
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Craig, after doing my homework I felt the best motor for me was a Roush. See my warranty experience http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/all-cobra-talk/91113-roush-replacing-my-motor.html
Best of luck Peter |
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That's great that Roush took care of you like that. But, if you were not that close to VMS, would you have been taken care of like that? You had VMS install the motor, what if I installed my own motor? Will Roush be there for me? If I go with VMS and get the complete turn key from them, will they help me the same way they helped you? I live in CA, how would they do that? These are my concerns with going with Backdraft/Roush, no dealers are close to me. I have 2 Superformance in both directions, 2 hrs away. Investing 57K in a car and not having support if something goes wrong is a problem. Craig |
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If I felt that I would be taken care of like Peter was with the above hypothetical, I wouldn't mind giving BDR/Roush my business and my hard earned money. I know SPF dealer would bend over backwards to make things right if something when wrong, mainly because they are close to me, much like VMS did for Peter. The question is, would BDR do the same for me even though I'm on the west coast??? Craig |
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If you buy an SPF with a Roush in California, a Roush dealer/installer would handle any potential problems. If a BDR is the car that you really want, then work with a Roush dealer/installer like Full Throttle or Mustang Ranch to determine how potential warranty issues might be resolved (even if you or some other third party does the install). At the end of the day, a BDR or a SPF dealer might be an advocate for you should a problem arise, but the main contact regarding any potential engine problems would be your dealer/installer, or you (if self installed). |
The Roush warranty is national. If a problem arises with the engine it can be serviced anywhere with the same Warranty paperwork that I must fill out for Peter or the local SPFs with Roush engines that we have serviced here because there is no local SPF dealer in the Northeast.
It's best to take it to a dealer/installer for a warranty issue, but you will be covered to the same level a local customer would. That is the second biggest reason the Roush warranty stands above all others, they have a full support network in place unlike the smaller builders. The biggest reason of course is the coverage of the labor aspect. |
The best warranty is one you will never need because it does not fail. If you buy the right engine from the beginning you will not have problems. That being said when mine was being installed 1200 miles away there was an issue with a stumble the installer found. He had the ability to repair but I requested to contact Roush. He indicated he had not been paid for the last repair. In the end Roush made amends with him and addressed the issue with a revised carburator. I was not impressed at the time but now more than a year later the Roush engine has exceeded all expectations with zero issues. If you are not mechanically inclined get your car from a local dealer, besides the engine there will be chassis issues. If you are mechanically inclined be ready to repair items on your own. These are not Toyotas or Honda's. It is because of this issue I feel a low mileage cobra , under 1500 miles is worth more than a new, all the bugs, and you will have bugs will have been sorted.
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Roush stumble
What was the fix for your stumble? My Roush 427R has a tip-in stumble that I have been working on. I tried to get info about the carb setup from Roush to verify that mine hasn't been tweeked by someone, but no reply.
Mine has the Holley Street Avenger 870, but I noticed that Roush is now supplying them with the 770 carb. |
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Check on the top of the float bowl and see if you have a paint dot there. My 427SR #444 came with a 770 with a blue dot on the top of the float bowl and had the stumble problem. Roush sent me another carburetor with a green dot on it and the problem is gone. I don't really know the difference in the two and it is nothing visible. The green dot model has the same size air bleeds, squirters and jets as the blue dot. I know two other Roush 427 owners that had the same stumble problem and Roush replaced their blue dot carbs with green dots and fixed the stumble. Jody |
If that doesn't work, try richening up the idle air screws about 1/8th of a turn out each. That stumble could be a slight lean transition.
Worked for me on another engine. |
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