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11-17-2015, 10:57 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
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Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C)
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Zn oils - What do you use?
Often for older cars using solid lifters Zn (ZDDP or zinc-dialkyldithiophosphate) aids in wear. There are also version in conventional oil and others in synthetic.
What Zn oil do you use? Lucas, Shell, Enos, Royal Purple, Amsoil, Valvoline VR or other?
Also type: Conventional or Synthetic
What is your experience?
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11-17-2015, 11:26 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Cobra Make, Engine: Hi-Tech
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Hi Jeff,
I used Joe Gibbs Driven Racing Oil 01506 HR-4 10W-30 Synthetic Hot Rod Oil and was very happy with it. I purchased mine from Amazon. High Zinc content.
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11-17-2015, 11:51 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: SoCal,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
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Joe Gibbs Driven XP-3 Racing Oil here. Yes, high ZDDP content. It's not cheap, but neither is the motor!
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11-17-2015, 12:04 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: West Chester,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #795 427 S/C completed Jan. '14 - '68 FE 427 side oiler
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I also use Driven (conventional). It's not called Joe Gibbs anymore, btw.
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11-17-2015, 12:12 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Brad Penn for me. But you know you can get either BP or JG oils on Amazon, so it's really just whichever tickles your fancy. Now, if you're looking for the true blue colored ATE Super Blue brake fluid, that's a little harder.
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11-17-2015, 12:51 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Bay Area (Peninsula),
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 427, 427/487 side-oiler
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I've used Gibbs, Penn, and Valvoline VR-1. Conventional. Lately I've been using VR-1, it's good and cheaper.
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11-17-2015, 04:16 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Sacramento,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance, 427SO
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Been using Valvoline VR-1, 20-50, conventional in my SFT cammed SO. Seems to do the job well.
Ted
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11-17-2015, 04:36 PM
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Location: Los Altos Hills,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance MkIII (2995), Ford 460/521, Ted Taormina build
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lippy
I've used Gibbs, Penn, and Valvoline VR-1. Conventional. Lately I've been using VR-1, it's good and cheaper.
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Not sure about other sources, but on Amazon (unless I'm messing up in my search) it looks like Penn is the cheapest of the three.
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11-17-2015, 05:02 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Charlottesville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Coombe, Shelby Block 496
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Brad Penn,has worked well for me.
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11-17-2015, 05:14 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Westerly,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Fordstroker 408w custom solid roller-Craft ported Brodix 17*heads-CFM ported Vic Jr. intake-1 3/4 primaries- 575hp-TKO-600RR Liberty upgrade- -Moser 8.8 trutrac-McLeod Street Extreme--QA-1-Wilwood brakes, Classic Chambered 3" Cobrapacks, Avon's
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Gibbs Driven 5w40 synthetic. I chose this for the below write up and I wanted thin 5w oil for cold startups and 40w for my hydraulic lifters. A lot of guys use Driven or Brad Penn in race cars in our area.
Synthetic 5W-40
DT40 delivers this first 5W-40 synthetic European Sports Car oil formulated with Ultra High Viscosity Index base oils designed for high output engines. DT40 features a high zinc content to protect aggressive cam profiles, and the advanced synthetic formula delivers fuel economy and high temperature protection from viscosity breakdown. High revving sports car engines and turbocharged engines require robust anti-wear protection. These high output engines need defense against high temperatures. Joe Gibbs Driven DT40 delivers enhanced film thickness as well as increased anti-wear additives. Ideal for German, Italian and British sports car engines. High Zinc Content - Higher level of Zinc (ZDP) delivers proper anti-wear protection for high output engines and flat-tappet camshafts. Extra Film Thickness - Advanced synthetic technology for greater film thickness under high temperatures and high loads. Thermal Stability - Defends against Turbo coking, oil consumption and viscosity breakdown. Storage Protection - Defends against moisture drawn into the engine by modern bio-blended fuels. Utilizes a tenacious oil film technology developed for the U.S. military.
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11-17-2015, 05:50 PM
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I use M1 15W/50. plenty of Zinc.
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11-18-2015, 11:34 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: UCC 427GT, 461
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I use the Joe Gibbs driven 15 50w conventional oil. Builder recommended that and wix filters, anything else would void the warranty.
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11-19-2016, 08:36 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
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Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C)
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Decided to go with Penzoil GT Racing oil.
High ZDDP content
Good with solid lifters.
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11-20-2016, 07:18 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Huntington,
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Cobra Make, Engine: E-M 427 Top Oiler stroked to 482 by KC, Stage 2 heads, a Quikfuel and Voila, 640 hp
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Jeff
This is a good article on ZDDP.
ZDDP: When, Where, What, Why, How? - Engine Builder Magazine
The limits on ZDDP and in particular, Phosphorus are related to poisoning of the catalytic converter. I used to use Shell Rotella until they dropped the amount of ZDDP in it. Brad Penn and the Joe Gibbs oils are "racing" oils and have substantially more ZDDP in them. When Keith Craft did my 427 center oiler, he insisted on the Gibbs oil to save the cam. I told him I was using Brad Penn and he said that was just as good.
Tim
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11-20-2016, 08:51 AM
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Spectro Motorguard or Spectro Golden Motorguard 10w40, the latter being a semi-syn.
Zinc 1800 parts per million. Not many other oils that high.
Of course, just my 2 cents
Ken
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11-20-2016, 10:08 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
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Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C)
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The Penzoil has min value of 2000ppm
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11-20-2016, 11:09 AM
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Location: Tempe,AZ-High Point,NC,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #684, 482FE, Mike Mccluskey build
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Brad Penn oil is $30 dollars cheaper a case than Joe Gibbs oil on Amazon.
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11-20-2016, 11:15 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Midstates/Shell Valley Street Cobra
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Whatever Wal Mart has on sale that day...
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11-20-2016, 10:39 PM
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Location: San Marcos california,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1989 KCC from South Africa Right Hand Drive
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I've been using Rotella T for a few years now...
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