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Thumbs up Happy Texas Independence Day !

Yep, TODAY is the 175th Anniversary of the signing of the Texas Declaration of Independence.

A Toast to Texas !!!

Today is also our First President's Birthday.

Happy Birthday Sam Houston !!!

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A only few,and it seems to be getting fewer monthly on this site,feel this way about Texas and our history.


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Lol, that's funny.

I've seen a few "Secede" bumper stickers around here.

Saw one the other day that said "Secede? You're lucky if we don't INVADE!"
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Last night 175 years ago,the last messenger of the Alamo left with W.B. Travis' last message.

John William Smith was carrying Travis' last plea for reinforcements to Sam Houston at the Convention at Washington on the Brazos.

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Today was the 13th day of the Mexican Forces siege of the Alamo.
189 Texians against 4,000 - 6,000 seasoned Mexican Troops.

The assaults started before dawn at 5 AM. The Texians were able to hold the first two assaults. William B. Travis was at his position when he was killed with a bullet to the forehead during the 2nd assault.
The third assault breached the North Wall and the Mexican Forces poured in and filled the Plaza.Fierce hand to hand fighting commenced.

Most of the then surviving Texians fell back to the Long Barracks to prepared firing positions. David Crockett and his people were forced back towards the Alamo Church when their position at the South Wall was breached.
James Bowie was in his room in the Low Barracks,very ill on his cot,when his door burst in.He managed to kill a few before being hoisted in the air on their bayonets.

At 6:30 AM ,15 minutes before sunrise and 90 minutes after the 1st assault,it was over.

189 Texians and 1,500 Mexicans were killed in 90 minutes.
Santa Anna lost 1/3 of his fighting force. A very expensive victory.
The Texians accomplished their goals.....bleed the enemy and delay.

Santa Anna had all the Texians gathered on piled in the Plaza.
At 5 PM,12 hours after it had started,Santa Anna set them to fire. The fire burnt for 2 days.
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Santa Anna had all the Texians gathered on piled in the Plaza. At 5 PM,12 hours after it had started,Santa Anna set them to fire. The fire burnt for 2 days.
Sadly, an even darker day lay ahead for the Texians. The massacre at Goliad revealed the sheer brutality of Santa Anna and his generals; easily outranking today's Al Qaeda. Given that these abominations against humanity happened on the grounds of places of worship built by peaceful settlers, it seems divine that the end would come so quickly in the tall grass on the quiet coastal plain at San Jacinto. Swiftly, out in the open, in clear daylight, in just a matter of minutes.
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Sadly, an even darker day lay ahead for the Texians. The massacre at Goliad revealed the sheer brutality of Santa Anna and his generals; easily outranking today's Al Qaeda. Given that these abominations against humanity happened on the grounds of places of worship built by peaceful settlers, it seems divine that the end would come so quickly in the tall grass on the quiet coastal plain at San Jacinto. Swiftly, out in the open, in clear daylight, in just a matter of minutes.
Couldn't agree more Jim.
I don't think most people understand just how cruel and brutal Santa Anna was.

Today,March 27th,is 175 years since The Goliad Massacre.
342 Texians were murdered. Twice as many as at The Alamo and The Battle of San Jacinto combined.This was 21 days after the Alamo fell.

The Goliad Massacre


Around 6:00 a.m. on Palm Sunday, March 27, 1836, after being held captive for one week, Fannin's men were told to gather up their things. They thought that they were going to the Port of Copano and then on to New Orleans. They were happy and singing. They knew that Col. Fannin had returned from the Port of Copano the previous day. What they didn't know was that at 7:00 p.m. the pervious evening,Colonel Portillia had received word directly from General Santa Anna to execute the men. About an hour after Portilla received the execution orders from Santa Anna, he received another order from General Urrea to "Treat the prisoners with consideration, particularly their leader, Fannin, and to employ them in rebuilding Goliad."

It was a foggy morning at sunrise. The able bodied men were formed into three groups, and under very heavy guard taken out of the fort. The Mexican troops were lined up on each side of the line of prisoners. One group was taken out on the San Antonio road, another on the Victoria road, and the other on the Copano road. The prisoners had little suspicion of their fate, because each group had been given a different story as to where they were going. One group was told that they were going to gather wood, another to drive up cattle, and the other group was told that they were going to the port of Copano. At selected spots on each of the three roads from one half to three-fourths of a mile from the fort, the groups were halted. After they halted, the guards on one side stepped through the ranks so that all the guards were on one side, they turned and fired at very close range. Those men that where not killed ran and were pursued by the cavalry.

The soldiers then returned to the fort and executed the wounded that were in the chapel. The wounded were taken out and laid in front of the chapel doors. There were about forty of them. They were then shot as they laid on the ground. Col. Fannin was saved until last. Fannin was taken outside the chapel, blind folded and seated in a chair next to a trench by the watergate. He made three requests, not to be shot in the face, his personal possessions be sent to his family, and that he be given a Christian burial. He was shot in the face, an officer took his personal possessions, and his body was burned along with many of the other bodies. Not all bodies were burned, some were left where they died. There were 342 men who died in the Goliad Massacre, which is almost twice the number of men who died at the Alamo and San Jacinto combined. Twenty-eight men did escape from the three massacre sites and seventeen men's lives were spared. It is from the accounts of the men who escaped and were spared that we know what happened at Presidio La Bahia.

After The Massacre

The clothes of those massacred were stripped off the dead bodies. The women took the clothes to the river and washed out the blood of the men killed, so they could be used by the Mexicans. Eye witness accounts of those spared from the massacre were filling up a water barrel as they watched the river turn red with the blood of their companions.

The bodies would be exposed to the elements and wild animals for over two months. Abel Morgan, one of the few men spared to care for the wounded Mexican soldiers wrote in his account of the massacre: "...Shirlock and I went down to the river after water and Shirlock observed me 'old man, they are going to make a clean turn of us in the morning.' About that time I felt as if it would not make much difference with me; for we were kept at work day and night and if we could have had time to sleep, who could have slept while there were hundreds of wolves and dogs eating the remains of our fellow soldiers, in our hearing?..."

Note: Those that were spared from the massacre were given white arm bands to wear and were allowed to walk about freely. If they lost the arm band, they would be shot immediately, as the Mexican troops were still looking for those that had escaped the massacre and for any Texian troops that might be in the area.

After the battle of San Jacinto, a rumor circulated that General Santa Anna had been rescued from Sam Houston's army, and that Houston had surrendered. This rumor set the troops in the presidio into a celebration. One of the celebratory actions was to shoot at the chapel bells, and this went on for the entire day. Today, you can view one of the bells that was cracked from a gun shot.

By the time it was realized that General Santa Anna had indeed surrendered, the troops in the presidio gathered up what few remains they could find of the men. At this time, almost month had passed and they tried to burn the remains again. The troops then abandoned the presidio and headed south.


Formal Burial Of Fannin And His Men

More than two months after the March 27th massacre, Texas General Thomas J. Rusk , who established his headquarters at Victoria, was escorting second in command of the Mexican army, General Vincente Fillsola and the remainder of the retreating Mexican army around Goliad. General Filisola came by Goliad, but did not dare enter it, as he feared the tempers of the very few remaining men there. This was about June 3rd, 1836.

In Goliad (the area around Presidio La Bahia), the ghastly remains of the massacred men of Fannin's Command were found in the partially covered trenches where they had been dumped and burned. Some bones, gnawed by coyotes and dogs were on top of the ground. General Rusk immediately gave orders for a formal military burial of the bones. Rusk issued the following order for the military funeral:

ARMY ORDER: June 3, 1836 A general parade of the army will take place tomorrow morning half past 3 O'clock A.M., The funeral is ordered at 9 O'clock A.M. Sherman will take command and conduct the procession in the following order: First Artillery, 2nd. Music, 3rd Maj. Morehou's Command, 4th 6 company officers---6 company officers, 5 Mourners. Those of Fannin's command who were in the army and who have so miraculously escaped will attend as mourners, 6. commander in Chief & Staff, 7. Medical Staff, 8. 2nd Regt. comd. by Major Wells , 9. 1st Regnt. Comd. by Lieut. Col. Summerville, 10. Regulars Comd. by Lieut. Col. Milliard ,Major Poe will order a minute gun fired from the fort, commencing with the time the procession moves until it arrives at the grave. Major Morehouses' Command will fire 3 rounds of Blank Cartridges at the grave. Signed Thos J. Rusk Brigr. Gn Com. On reaching the grave General Rusk delivered a short, but feeling and eloquent address.

"FELLOW SOLDIERS: In the order of Providence we are this day called upon to pay the last sad offices of respect to the remains of the noble and heroic band, who, battling for our sacred rights, have fallen beneath the ruthless hand of a tyrant. Their chivalrous conduct entitles them to the heartfelt gratitude of the people of Texas. Without any further interest in the country than that which all noble hearts feel at the bare mention of liberty, they rallied to our standard. Relinquishing the ease, peace, and comforts of their homes, leaving behind them all they held dear, their mothers, sisters, daughters, and wives, they subjected themselves to fatigue and privation, and nobly threw themselves between the people of Texas and the legions of Santa Anna. There, unaided by re-enforcement's and far from help and hope, they battled bravely with the minions of a tyrant, ten to one. Surrounded in the open prairie by this fearful odds, cut off from provisions and even water, they were induced, under the sacred promise of receiving the treatment usual to prisoners of war, to surrender. They were marched back, and for a week treated with the utmost inhumanity and barbarity. They were marched out of yonder fort under the pretense of getting provisions, and it was not until the firing of musketry did the shrieks of the dying, that they were satisfied of their approaching fate. Some endeavored to make their escape, but they were pursued by the ruthless cavalry and most of them cut down with their swords. A small number of them stand by the grave-a bare remnant of that noble band. Our tribute of respect is due to them; it is due to the mothers, sisters, and wives who weep their untimely end, that we should mingle our tears with theirs. In that mass of remains and fragments of bones, many a mother might see her son, many a sister her brother, and many a wife her own beloved and affectionate husband. But we have a consolation- yet to offer them: their murderers sank in death on the prairies of San Jacinto, under the appalling words, "Remember La Bahia." Many a tender and affectionate woman will remember, with tearful eye, "La Bahia." But we have another consolation to offer. It is, that while liberty has a habitation and a name, their chivalrous deeds will be handed down upon the bright pages of history. We can still offer another consolation: Santa Anna, the mock hero, the black-hearted murderer, is within our grasp. Yea, and there he must remain, tortured with the keen pain of corroding conscience. He must oft remember La Bahia, and while the names of those whom he murdered shall soar to the highest pinnacle of fame, his shall sink down into the lowest depths of infamy and disgrace."

http://www.presidiolabahia.org/massacre.htm

26 days later the Texian Army under Sam Houston got their revenage while shouting......

"Remember The Alamo !" "Remember La Bahia !"
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Battle of San Jacinto
(21 April 1836)
Sam Houston and the meager army of Texas retreated eastward following the fall of the Alamo in the spring of 1836. The troops were becoming increasingly impatient, however, by the time they reached Buffalo Bayou, a few miles southeast of present day Houston.

On the morning of the April 19, the Texans crossed over and marched down the right bank of Buffalo Bayou to within half a mile of its confluence with the San Jacinto River. Here, the army prepared their defenses on the edge of a grove of trees. Their rear was protected by timber and the bayou, while before them was an open prairie.

On the following morning, Mexican General Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna came marching across the prairie in battle array. A volley from the Texan's "Twin Sisters" artillery brought him to a sudden halt. Falling back to a clump of trees a quarter of a mile distant, Santa Anna formed in line of battle. Colonel Sidney Sherman, at the head of the Texas cavalry, charged the Mexican army, but accomplished little except to inspire the Texans with fresh enthusiasm for the following day.

The 21st of April dawned bright and beautiful. The main forces of the Texas army were there, totaling about 750 men. They faced over 1500 of the enemy, secure and flushed with pride at the offense they had enjoyed for the previous few weeks against the Texans. Early in the morning, Houston sent Deaf Smith, the celebrated Texas spy, with two or three men, to destroy Vince's bridge over which the Mexican army had passed, thus cutting off their only available escape.

When Houston's long awaited order to advance was given, the Texans did not hesitate. When within seventy yards the word "fire" was given, the Texan shouts of "Remember the Alamo" and "Remember Goliad" rang along the entire line. Within a short time, 700 Mexicans were slain, with another 730 taken as prisoners. The battle for Texas was won.
(Nine Texians were killed or mortally wounded. Sam Houston was shot in the ankle. Santa Anna was found the next day hiding in the grass and dressed as a common foot soldier.)

A panel on the side of the monument at San Jacinto today underscores the importance of the battle after more than a century and a half of reflection: "Measured by its results, San Jacinto was one of the decisive battles of the world. The freedom of Texas from Mexico won here led to annexation and to the Mexican War, resulting in the acquisition by the United States of the States of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, California, Utah, and parts of Colorado, Wyoming, Kansas and Oklahoma. Almost one-third of the present area of the American nation, nearly a million square miles of territory, changed sovereignty."

Battle of San Jacinto (21 April 1836)

April 21,1836 Timeline

3:30 PM
General Sam Houston ordered his men to form up and move out. The army advanced as units in the same order in which it had been camped. Silently they crossed through knee-high grass, approximately one mile toward the Mexican positions.

The Mexicans had not posted any sentries, pickets or lookouts, allowing the Texians to advance across the low ground, over the ridgeline, and to a short distance in front of the breastworks before being detected. This surprise was one of the major factors in the Texas Victory.

The Second Regiment formed the left of the Texan line and, advancing through some trees along the top of the bluff, had proceeded slightly ahead of the rest of the Texas line. The battle started there when the 2nd Regiment under the command of Sidney Sherman hit the right of the Mexican line.

4:30 PM
Mexican Colonel Pedro Delgado, in his account of the battle, noted: “No important incident took place until 4:30 p.m. At this fatal moment, the bugler on our right signaled the advance of the enemy upon that wing.”

5:00 PM
After about 20 minutes of intense fighting at or near the breastworks, the Mexicans retreated. The Texans pursued for more than an hour, driving them back to the water’s edge. During sporadic fighting and evasive flight by the Mexican soldiers, approximately 630 were killed.

6:00 PM
Over 700 Mexican soldiers were allowed to surrender to the Texian army.

Happy San Jacinto Day !!!

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