What do I need from the Seller?

[Aedds]

Originally Posted by SS95003

I bought a partically built FFR car. I purchased it some someone in SC. I inspected the car before any cash switched hands. The car wsa only in a roller stage so still had lots of work to do.
I still do not have mine reg. but i got a bill of sale, MSO, and a stack of reciepts.

Everone is saying to check the vin with the DMV. But the car has not been titled and it has no VIN, so I am curious how people want you to do that. It only has a seriel number stamped on the frame under the steering column. Atleast thats where it is on the ffr coupe.

So I'm not sure how to check for a stolen car then? I guess I would get a vin after the inspection from the DMV? If I go this route I am paying an inspection service to look over the car with me. Not sure they will have a clue but hoping to find one that specializes in these types of vehicles. I know that jj best has inspectors they use so might call and ask.

[SS95003]

the mso will have the name and address of who ffr sold the car too. if the seller has no mso then no way i would buy it. Also if you stole a ffr car would you try to sell it on a ffr website? I would not worry about the stolen car aspect i would worry about the quality of the build.

[vector1]

for kansas i would want the mso, all receipts, and a receipt from the wrecking yard or somethnig similiar showing the vin of the car the engine & tranny were taken from.

[bulletbrown]

Questions to look for on the the MSO , MSO has the original buyers name on it ? It should and you can not use it period , it is NOT be reassign at a retail level . If you try to us it : it is called Title jumping and the original owner must pay the taxes on it as well as you . And only one MSO call be created and it is in original owners name . Check with your DMV as to how to proceed . There is no easy way to get around this .

[SS95003]

There has been hundred of cars sold on mso only. Again I have not yet tried to register mine. But knock on wood i do not anticipate any issues. I'm not to sure that the state of Texas is worried about someone paying taxes on something out of state.

You should have the VIN on the engine checked out. I purched mine with no engine so i did not have to worry about that.

[tcrist]

All of these guys have good points. But, if it were me, I would find out which DMV office closest to you has more knowlage on what is needed to register the car.

Make an appointment to go there with everything that you have been told by the seller. Be sure to write down all of your questions so you do not forget anything and then be sure to write down all of the answers.

Ask them which person has the most experiance that can help you when you are ready to start the registeration process.

With the economy being the way it is, you might have to pay for this appointment. It would be worth it though. At least I think it would be.

[bulletbrown]

If the MSO is not in your name you can not use it in any state. Only the person who,s name is on it can use it . Make a phone call to your DMV and find out for yourself . There is differance in how they tell you how to proceed . Tax is the issue here . The orginal owner can not hand off the MSO.

[Aedds]

Originally Posted by bulletbrown

If the MSO is not in your name you can not use it in any state. Only the person who,s name is on it can use it . Make a phone call to your DMV and find out for yourself . There is differance in how they tell you how to proceed . Tax is the issue here . The orginal owner can not hand off the MSO.

So how are rollers etc sold from one to another? I will be placing a call to the DMV monday to verify.

[glenview289]

We were the 3rd buyer of our car. All you need is the MSO to the original owner and Bill of Sales from each owner between the original owner and you, no matter how many there were, as long as you complete the chain to you. Its better if the Bill of Sales reference the chassis number or any information carried on the MSO. Receipts for other major components may or may not be required, a check with you DMV will tell you what you need. We lived in three different states while completing our car, Wisconsin, Illinois, and Arkansas, and all would have accepted the above information.

Bill

[ajracing]

In my case, the seller in Georgia had to title the car first before I was able to transfer to Texas title.

Aj

[azfordman]

Aedds, just to give you my perspective, since I purchased a car recently. I was window shopping for several years, so I had a very good idea of what I wanted in the car I was looking for. When I was ready to buy I had several different cars that I was seriously interested in and talked to all of the owners. The car I ended up buying was at the shop of a clubcobra member, Mickmate. He was very active on the forum and and I got a lot of good feedback from other members here about him. I purchased the car sight unseen, except for the many photos that Nick(Micmate) emailed to me. I live in Arizona and the car was in New Hampshire. Was I a bit nervous? Yes, but I had done my research and felt comfortable in the purchase. Since the car had an existing title, registration was a breeze here in AZ. (A car having an existing title was on of my search requirements.) I have owned the car around 7 months now, and have to put a little work into it, new carburetor, some wiring/electrical issues, alternator, battery, plugs, spark plug wires, coil, and new push rods. However....I have put over 6,000 miles on the car, and although it has had some problems, it has never left me stranded....has always driven back to the house! All repairs I would expect from a 20 year old hot rod. My only advice would be to do your research, try to get feedback about the car from someone who is not connected to the seller (ideally from this site) and understand that the car you end up buying is essentially a high maintenance toy! Good luck and let me know if you have any other questions. Mark