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03-22-2009, 05:47 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Carrollton,
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Cobra Make, Engine: JBL now SOLD
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Got bored so took some engine pics.....
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03-22-2009, 05:56 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Black CSX 4910, Roush 511 8 stack
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Those are cool valve covers and air cleaner. Where did you get them?
csx4910
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03-22-2009, 06:04 PM
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Nice, what kind of horsepower and why the electric water pump. I am also interested in the vavle covers. Thanks for sharing!!
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03-22-2009, 06:16 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Plano,
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Cobra Make, Engine: LS427, Keith Craft 408, TKO-600, 370 Rear-End
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John,
Too cool man.......
Gary
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03-22-2009, 06:18 PM
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Madmaxx, it is "street-friendly" spec engine....made 517hp/535tq on the dyno with a carb. Not sure what it will make with EFI. Electric water pump because I wanted to try it for a while to see if it helps while idling at the stoplight in these Texas summers. I forget from where I ordered the valve covers....I will look it up and let you know.
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03-22-2009, 06:19 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Lone Star 427SC.
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I also like the covers. How do you like the electric pump, any problems ?
They have always looked cool but, I would be concerned about a electrical problem ?
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03-22-2009, 07:21 PM
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Never used one so I am not sure how the electric pump will work out, but I am hoping/guessing it will work as well as any electric fuel pump, which a lot of folks are comfortable with. One point about the electric pump is if you can carry a spare it only takes taking off one hose and 4 unobstructed bolts to change it out.
They claim 4,000 hours motor life, if so it will last me more miles than I can use. I think folks are putting them on street cars more and more nowadays. If anyone can speak from personal experience please chime in. Yes I know it is not keeping with the "original" theme, like EFI, but that is not the main goal of this car.
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03-22-2009, 07:42 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary, FE, Tremec TKO 600
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Neat engine, it's going into a JBL? I always though the JBL is a really neat car. I'm sort of an originality type guy, but if I wasn't going that way, then I'd completely go against it and get a leading edge car like the JBL. There are so many Cobra's out there with body's that are just not even close to correct, if you're not going to have an accurate body, then go all out with a street legal race car like the JBL. Very cool engine / car combo, good luck. Wish you were local, I'd love to go for a ride when it's done. Enjoy!
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03-22-2009, 08:01 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: BDR #250
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I have been running a Meizire electric water pump for 3 1/2 years now. had my first problem when I installed a new engine, I broke the ground wire. Easy to notice as the temp climbed and I shut it down before it reached 210. I like them because you can circulate the water and run the electric fan at the track with the engine off for 5 minutes get ride of the water boiling after you have a hot track session...Mac
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03-22-2009, 08:10 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: jbl
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niiiiice!
i have the electric water pump on my jbl and i like it. i had doubts at first, but being able to run the pump and fan independently after shutoff is nice. works real nice too if you want to give it a "burp".
be careful with your efi stuff. i'm in the process of a rewire because of rfi which i didn't fully, or partially, understand til now. maybe you know this but from what i understand, keep your msd away from all your efi stuff, wire your msd leads directly to the battery, wire your efi power wires directly to the battery, away from all other power leads, keep your water pump power wires away from your distributor wires. mine is an accel and might be different from yours, and i have yet to finish so i don't know if i am correcting my problems but think it should.
front cover is interesting, what brand?
post some pics of your jbl, let's see that bad boy.
also, how deep is your pan off the block?
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03-22-2009, 08:56 PM
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jdean,
Really good looking motor. I'm partial to the black too.
Can I get you to post or email me some motor spec's, I'm thinking of building a small block for a new project and your numbers look nice.
Once again, very cool
Chris
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03-22-2009, 09:00 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA GT #2077, 331 SBF, Webers, Gurney Eagle heads
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Fine piece!
Ooooo .. you a fancy boy now! Can't wait to see all this modern racing technology on four wheels
Problem .. the T.I.T don't know nuthin' 'bout how to set that thing up. Hope you gotta book!
Sam
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03-23-2009, 09:10 AM
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Ok, I got the valve covers and breather from an outfit called South Bay Global. They have some VERY cool parts for us Cobra folks whether Windsor, FE or whatever on ebay too. Example...check these out...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-F...ayphotohosting
If you would like a smooth timing cover call Bob Garrett at Garrett Machine.......
http://www.garrettmachine.com/index_products.htm
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03-23-2009, 09:54 AM
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Location: Flower Mound,
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Cobra Make, Engine: JBL - TK0600, Electromotive EFI, Keith Craft 408W "standard crate", ~575hp
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John,
Hey looks nice
Figure we are going to be the only 2 JBL town outside of California
Also... there is no way the oil filter is going to fit...but... your configuration does have some more space
Might want to look at this http://www.cantonracingproducts.com/...ion&key=22-595
Also with EFI... don't you need sealed valve covers with a PVC valve and not breathers??
See you later this week
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03-23-2009, 12:40 PM
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Chris,
Yeah one of the breathers is just a place holder. It will for sure have a PVC in it.
I do hope the oil filter will fit to save the trouble of installing a remote one.
John
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03-23-2009, 05:55 PM
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Chris N,
I measured my oil pan depth. From the bottom of the engine at the oil pan rail to the bottom of the oil pan it is 7.5"
If you have a chance, please measure yours too so I can see if I will be in the ballpark for ground clearance.....Thanks!!
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03-23-2009, 06:40 PM
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John,
I was just thinking you may have the wrong pan. I will measure tomorrow. I have only a few inches clearance and was actually thinking I should get a mount that raises it up a bit. The car was designed with a dry sump and it is really low
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03-23-2009, 08:23 PM
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Great.... Your promoting the ones I put a bid on a few days ago.. Now I am going to have to fight for them..
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03-24-2009, 07:28 AM
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centerline of crank or bottom of block to bottom of frame is 6.5" on my jbl, your side effects may be different.
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03-24-2009, 09:00 AM
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Mark,
Thanks for the info.....looks like I am only one inch lower than dry sump. Sometimes an inch can make a big difference when talking road clearance.
It will be a couple of weeks before I get the frame from Larry Goins. I will set the engine in then to see what the pan clearance looks like.
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