Long Trip on Goodyear BB's? - Page 2

PatBuckley · #21 (**permalink**) 02-27-2010, 03:35 PM

John, are you sure that ALL bias ply tires cannot get DOT approval?

jwd · #22 (**permalink**) 02-27-2010, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Silverback51

In regard to DOT approval, bias ply tires can be DOT approved. The reason the Billboard are not is the side wall and tread carcass is very thin since it's a race tire. Less heat build up that way, but they also do not react well to pot holes and other items that we may hit on the highway.

Thanks again everyone.

Right you are John. All tires destined for street use have a DOT number on them. That includes ALL reproduction bias ply tires etc. It has nothing to do with bias ply vs. radial.

The only problem running non DOT tires is that if you have an accident and injure someone while running them, an attorney would have a field day and easily prove negligence on your part.

Jim

JCoop · #23 (**permalink**) 02-27-2010, 05:24 PM

I haven't gone more than 150 miles/clip and don't have the GY BB either. However, I HAVE gotten a flat in one of the GY radials (old supercar size which is n/a)on my way to my "summer" home 75 miles out. I had 2 cans of Fix-a flat, which got me enough pressure to get to a gas station and fill up. The problem was the valve stem where it mounts to the rim. The gooey stuff seemed to fix it so I got to where I was going, hung out for the day, then decided to head back after checking that the tire pressure had held up. Well, 15 miles out, it went flat again. No more Fix-a flat cans. I decided to slowly drive back where I had a set of GY G7 hand-cut racing tires (from Roger Kraus). I had to change all 4 wheels/tires. The flat tire was shot and I can't find a replacement anymore. I had to spring for a full set of Nitto 555s. I run 17s. I now carry a full front wheel spare 15", a lead hammer, a tire repair kit including a small air compressor. 4 cans of Fix a flat. That doesn't leave much room for anything else in the trunk after also storing the top and windows there. Your problem would be where to put luggage. I, myself, am pondering a long trip this spring and trying to figure out if a trunk lid luggage rack with straps and suction cups is something worth looking into. Also, I'm putting together a list of spares and tools that would likely be needed in the event of a mechanical problem. Sorry for a long-winded reply but I think performance may be the least of your concerns; more like being prepared for the unexpected mechanical breakdown or a simple flat? Enjoy and tell us how it went...

Silverback51 · #24 (**permalink**) 02-27-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PatBuckley

John, are you sure that ALL bias ply tires cannot get DOT approval?

Hello Pat,

Sorry, you misread my post. Bias ply tires can be DOT approved. Someone else posted that they could not, and I was correcting that.

PatBuckley · #25 (**permalink**) 02-28-2010, 07:40 AM

I did, sorry.

jwd · #26 (**permalink**) 02-28-2010, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Silverback51

Hello Pat,

Sorry, you misread my post. Bias ply tires can be DOT approved.

The only bias ply tires (legally allowed on the street) that won't have a DOT stamp are originals made prior to 1968.

Jim

FUNFER2 · #27 (**permalink**) 02-28-2010, 08:37 AM

With using such low psi, don't you get uneven tire ware ? (outside tred)
Or is the psi with bias-ply different ?

I would hate to ruin my expensive Billboards, which I haven't mounted yet.

Silverback51 · #28 (**permalink**) 02-28-2010, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by FUNFER2

With using such low psi, don't you get uneven tire ware ? (outside tred)
Or is the psi with bias-ply different ?

I would hate to ruin my expensive Billboards, which I haven't mounted yet.

You have to remember that each tire is only carrying approximately 700 pounds over a fairly large foot print.

I did a couple quick burnouts in the garage to make sure I had a good footprint and that is where the 18 PSI came from.

Just noticed I forgot to mention one item. The recommended pressures on Rogers site are 20 PSI cold. If hot, they are 27 PSI.

sicilian cobra · #29 (**permalink**) 02-28-2010, 03:33 PM

you may also consider this alternatihttp://www.stopngo.com/ve

1985 CCX · #30 (**permalink**) 02-28-2010, 03:41 PM

I drove from New Hampshire to Southern New Jersey. It rained, it poured and it was also dry on the return trip. They were flawless.....

FUNFER2 · #31 (**permalink**) 02-28-2010, 04:48 PM

The stopngo is a nice kit but, if we use tubes in the Billboards, do they have a kit ?

Bernica · #32 (**permalink**) 03-01-2010, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Silverback51

You have to remember that each tire is only carrying approximately 700 pounds over a fairly large foot print.

I did a couple quick burnouts in the garage to make sure I had a good footprint and that is where the 18 PSI came from.

Just noticed I forgot to mention one item. The recommended pressures on Rogers site are 20 PSI cold. If hot, they are 27 PSI.

Here's the Krause info on tire pressures for "Vintage Tires". I'll also include their advice on tire "direction"...

Bernica · #33 (**permalink**) 03-01-2010, 05:18 PM

Sorry, it says "upload failed". Just go to their site and look under "Information", then browse the PDF files.
http://rogerkrausracing.com/pages/moreinfo.html

392cobra · #34 (**permalink**) 03-01-2010, 05:44 PM

This is what I use.
http://ride-on.com/

Found/noticed a nail in a rear tire about a month ago and it has yet to loss any air pressure.
It's nothing like fix a flat. Whole different animal.

"Shelby American has been performing ride and handling testing over the past several months. I am pleased to say that Ride-On will be offered to the owners for use in their Series 1's with the backing and confidence of Shelby . Thank you for all your efforts to make this happen. ”

Mark Visconti, Vice President Engineering - Shelby American, Inc.

Silverback51 · #35 (**permalink**) 03-02-2010, 04:07 AM

Stopped by Griots yesterday and bought a little air compressor. Nice little unit.

http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/...rrivals&page=1

dcdoug · #36 (**permalink**) 03-04-2010, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 392cobra

This is what I use.
http://ride-on.com/

Found/noticed a nail in a rear tire about a month ago and it has yet to loss any air pressure.
It's nothing like fix a flat. Whole different animal.

From looking at the website, it seems that you put this stuff in as a preventative sealant, rather than after you get a flat (like fix a flat), is that right? If so, I assume it is safe for aluminum wheels?

392cobra · #37 (**permalink**) 03-05-2010, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dcdoug

From looking at the website, it seems that you put this stuff in as a preventative sealant, rather than after you get a flat (like fix a flat), is that right? If so, I assume it is safe for aluminum wheels?

That is exactly right.It's a preventative product.

As far as hurting anything or causing problems with future tire repairs. Perfectly safe to wheels & tires.. Unlike Fix a flat.

I had a slight vibration even after a balance but before adding Ride-On.It went away after adding it.

I sold on it after it smoothing out my ride and saving the replacement of a $ 170 tire. Nail is still in the tire and still no lose of pressure as of yesterday.
It works on tube type tires as well but leaving the nail in could end up tearing the tube beyond what the product could seal.

btw - I have nothing what so ever to do with this company.I just a customer and know other customers.

Q: Does Ride-On Tire Protection System react chemically with the tires or wheels?

A: No. Ride-On (TPS) tire sealant is chemically inert, and will not attack the tire or wheels. Ride-On (TPS) contains corrosion inhibitors that protect steel and aluminum wheels and tire belts against corrosion. Ride-On (TPS) tire sealant can be easily washed out of tires with water. It will not affect the future use of patches or other tire repairs if necessary. Ride-On (TPS) will actually help preserve the tire casing, making retreads more effective.

Ron61 · #38 (**permalink**) 03-05-2010, 08:43 AM

That seems to work somewhat like the solution that I got from Sears for my garden tractor tires. You put it in before or after you have a puncture and then drive around for a little while to spread it all inside the tire and it acts as a sealant and also almost like a lubricant as it keeps the inside of the tires flexible and it works itself into the rubber. I ran over a piece of heavy wire with the front tire and pulled it out and I could just barely see where the green stuff came into the hole and it has never leaked. Also took a tire off after a year and looked at the inside and it looked like brand new. I have wondered if it would work on a car tire.

Ron

dcdoug · #39 (**permalink**) 03-05-2010, 11:48 AM

Thanks, sounds like a great product.

Bernica · #40 (**permalink**) 03-09-2010, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 392cobra

This is what I use.
http://ride-on.com/

Found/noticed a nail in a rear tire about a month ago and it has yet to loss any air pressure.
It's nothing like fix a flat. Whole different animal.

"Shelby American has been performing ride and handling testing over the past several months. I am pleased to say that Ride-On will be offered to the owners for use in their Series 1's with the backing and confidence of Shelby . Thank you for all your efforts to make this happen. ”

Mark Visconti, Vice President Engineering - Shelby American, Inc.

392Cobra:
How many cans of the Ride-On did you put in each/all tires? Are they Billboards? I have a new set and thinking of trying that stuff....