rims and tires

[ender2664]

Can you please post pics of your car and its' rims along with the size, where you got them and how much they cost?
I really have not seen many pics of a shelby with anything but the cobra rims, which are pretty expensive, and would like to see what the car looks like with different rims.
I also want to put the fattest rim and tire combo possible on the rear so i have a good amount of traction.
If you could also tell me what size, brand tires you use, and cost that would be great too.
I just ordered my rolling chassis and would like to have some rims and tires to bolt on so that the car is sitting on all fours when it gets here.

[Three Peaks]

Ask your chassis supplier what size tires and rims will fit on your car, including back space and go over to ebay and start shopping for wheels that size. You'll also find pics on ebay of lots of Cobras with different wheels to look at.

Bob

[1985 CCX]

My old car CCX3682 used Vintage 5 bolt conversions and BB Goodyears... Not sure what a set sells for ~ $1500 and the tires about $1200
My current car uses FIA 6pin with Bluestreak rears and Power cushion fronts Magnesium FIA's $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Phew
Next car, hope to start another 289 soon, kidney bean 6pin... Mag KB's also $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


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[Detroit Bill]

Originally Posted by ender2664

Can you please post pics of your car and its' rims along with the size, where you got them and how much they cost?
I really have not seen many pics of a shelby with anything but the cobra rims, which are pretty expensive, and would like to see what the car looks like with different rims.
I also want to put the fattest rim and tire combo possible on the rear so i have a good amount of traction.
If you could also tell me what size, brand tires you use, and cost that would be great too.
I just ordered my rolling chassis and would like to have some rims and tires to bolt on so that the car is sitting on all fours when it gets here.

What did you order?

[ender2664]

Do you mean who did I order the kit from? A&c
as for the motor im either going to run a blue print 383 with 430hp or a Phoenix engine 302 with 376hp. I know a 302 with 376hp isnt going to make to much torque but im still a little worried about traction given the weight of the car.

[cobrakiwi]

I think these look good.

[scootter]

I currently have the Michelin Pilots on my car which they don't make anymore. I just purchased a new set of Michelin PS2's $$$$. $1650 for the set. 335/35/17 rears and 275/40/17 fronts. Wheels are PSE pin drive 11.5" rear and 9.5" front. Not sure what they cost. Problem with the 17" wheels, the tire selections is limited.

Scott

[saltshaker]

15x8 f 4.5"bs
15x10R 4" bs
I have 17x9f &
17x10.5" on the rear 4.5bs
I would call Joe, also depends which brakes your using
Jon

[pcww]

I am no authority but the selection of 17s is greater and I think in the end are safer and will handle better. Again no expert but will sit back and listen.

[Joe's Garage]

High end sports cars are not shod with 15's for a reason.
Joe

[spf645]

Buy some cheap wheels to fit lug pattern and used tires while building car. When closer to finish then look for wheels.

To me I wanted the same look as 60's. That's the car I fell in love with. Mine is just street driven though.

1985,kiwi, scooter, beautiful pic's. The 15's get my vote for looks. Only my opinion though.

[joyridin']

I do not have to search the forum. What I am saying is a comparable set of 17" tires will outperform a 15" set on the same car with the same driver. If the 15" were so good, you would see them on Ferrari's, Porsche, and numerous other cars, but you don't.

I am not saying they do not handle well compared to cheap 17" tires or other 15" tires, but to say they will out perform a comparable 17" tires is not an accurate statement. That is conventional wisdom.

[sea2jet]

Here's a question, are there any owners of original 1960's CSX Cobra's running them on 17" wheels and tires?

[1985 CCX]

CSX3170 does at road courses.
On YouTube.
Falkan tires.

[sea2jet]

I figured there had to be someone. Especially if they are tracking the car. Thanks.

[zrayr]

There are many more original Cobras being tracked on the 15's, and doing very well.

I

Originally Posted by joyridin'

I do not have to search the forum. What I am saying is a comparable set of 17" tires will outperform a 15" set on the same car with the same driver. If the 15" were so good, you would see them on Ferrari's, Porsche, and numerous other cars, but you don't.

I am not saying they do not handle well compared to cheap 17" tires or other 15" tires, but to say they will out perform a comparable 17" tires is not an accurate statement. That is conventional wisdom.

What I have said IS accurate because I have witnessed it firsthand, not just at one SAAC race, but several CVAR events as well. I never said the Avons matched up well against "cheap" 17" tires. Those are your words. I personally have seen Cobras (and a lowly Mustang as well) wearing the 15" Avon's completely embarrass Cobras that had very high quality 17" rubber, and good drivers too. The Avon Cobra's were nicely motoring and occasionally drifting around the corners. The Cobras with the 17" wheels were going off the course and spinning out trying to keep up.

If You can't wrap your mind around that happening, so be it. The Avons are that much better than 99% of what is available in the 17" size. There's a lot to learned on the forums, but only if one keeps an open mind and is willing to benefit from the direct experiences of others

As a matter of fact, you do see the 15" Avon CR6ZZ tires on many vintage Porsches, as well As the GT40's and of course the Cobras.

Are there better race tires ? Sure, but they are usually slicks, and none of them are DOT street legal as is the CR6ZZ. But the Avons do have better traction than most race tires you will see on a vintage Cobra, including the GoodYear billboards and the Hoosier's

Z

[Detroit Bill]

Originally Posted by zrayr

There are many more original Cobras being tracked on the 15's, and doing very well.

I

What I have said IS accurate because I have witnessed it firsthand, not just at one SAAC race, but several CVAR events as well. I never said the Avons matched up well against "cheap" 17" tires. Those are your words. I personally have seen Cobras (and a lowly Mustang as well) wearing the 15" Avon's completely embarrass Cobras that had very high quality 17" rubber, and good drivers too. The Avon Cobra's were nicely motoring and occasionally drifting around the corners. The Cobras with the 17" wheels were going off the course and spinning out trying to keep up.

If You can't wrap your mind around that happening, so be it. The Avons are that much better than 99% of what is available in the 17" size. There's a lot to learned on the forums, but only if one keeps an open mind and is willing to benefit from the direct experiences of others

As a matter of fact, you do see the 15" Avon CR6ZZ tires on many vintage Porsches, as well As the GT40's and of course the Cobras.

Are there better race tires ? Sure, but they are usually slicks, and none of them are DOT street legal as is the CR6ZZ. But the Avons do have better traction than most race tires you will see on a vintage Cobra, including the GoodYear billboards and the Hoosier's

Z

Have you driven the same car with both sets of tires? If not you do not know, you surmise. There is no doubt that the Avons are good. But there appears to be no doubt in your mind that the larger diameter tires are not good.

Avons are an 80 tread wear. They are a race tire that got DOT approved. Most of the 17's and 18's are 200. You have to get to a DOT approved race tire to have a fair comparison. Like a Nitto NT01. BUT those tread wear ratings come with compromise. Like not lasting long, perhaps not great in the rain, cracking when driven in the cold, heat cycling out, throwing stones up on the fender lips....

So what have we learned, the Avons are great except for the compromises you accept when you get them.

The larger diameter tires are great except for the compromises you accept when you get them.

I think one could say that a larger diameter tire with equal traction would be superior due to the smaller sidewall. But am sure that would cause a debate also.

There is no one answer it depends on what the end user desires.

[cycleguy55]

This is the quote that comes to mind when I read threads like this: "None so deaf as those that will not hear. None so blind as those that will not see." - Matthew Henry

It's extremely difficult for anyone to change their mind on a topic or an issue when they're convinced they already know the answer (consciously or otherwise).

If only CR6ZZ Avons were available in 17" & 18" sizes, the world would be at peace.

[Dwight]

I think the love of 17" 18" 19" rims and tires has a lot to do with the larger rotors they can use. Better brakes.

Americans suffer from what I call the "Cadillac syndrome" bigger is better.


I think the car industry is selling bigger is better. If 10" brakes are good then 11" or better, 12" are lot better and 22" are fantastic.
Same thing applies to tire size, motor size, hp numbers, etc

Now a 2100 to 2500 lbs Cobra might not need larger rotors. Just a better rotor.

Tires, tire size, brakes, weight of car, etc all play into the performance on the street or track. And then there is the driver!

Dwight

[SPF1061]

Originally Posted by Dwight

>>> And then there is the driver!<<<

Dwight

You honor, I rest my case... :-)

Have fun and be safe!