Kumho Ecsta Experience?

[ACHiPo]

Was browsing this morning and came across Kumho Ecsta V-rated 225/60R15 tires for $65 each. While I'd like wider (255/60) tires for my 7 1/2" sunburst wheels, I like the idea of getting a V-rated tire, especially for under $100 each and with a treadwear rating of 600AA.

Does anyone have any experience with these tires on a Cobra?

[twobjshelbys]

I've never hard of them before. They appear to be Korean based with manufacturing also in China. Lots of places sell them but I've not seen them before.

[Ozzie Goat]

I have 305's in back, 245 in front.

I have not tracked my car, but I love these tires.

Edit: Escta XS 17"

[dallas_]

Originally Posted by ACHiPo

a treadwear rating of 600AA.

Does anyone have any experience with these tires on a Cobra?

No experience with the Escta V. Is that the correct treadwear rating?

My Escta XS are 180. I thought the V's were around 200.

600 sounds way too hard of a compound for a Cobra.

[jhv48]

600 treadwear? That's like putting wood discs on the front end. That's way too hard for our light cars.

I use treadwear 200 as a maximum number. Any lower and they'll throw debris onto your paint. Any higher and you will sacrifice traction.

[cycleguy55]

Originally Posted by ACHiPo

Was browsing this morning and came across Kumho Ecsta V-rated 225/60R15 tires for $65 each. While I'd like wider (255/60) tires for my 7 1/2" sunburst wheels, I like the idea of getting a V-rated tire, especially for under $100 each and with a treadwear rating of 600AA.

Does anyone have any experience with these tires on a Cobra?

No personal experience, other than the Kumho tires on my wife's Infiniti G35x. Regardless, TireRack lists a bunch of different Kumho Ecsta tires, but the only one they have in that size is the Kumho Ecsta Platinum (V-rated, 600AA) - a Grand Touring tire. https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...omCompare1=yes

They list them as 'Good' wet and dry performance - not Excellent. I wouldn't consider this a great tire for a Cobra. That size is also the widest 15" in that tire, which begs the question of what you'd put on the rear.

[ACHiPo]

Originally Posted by dallas_

No experience with the Escta V. Is that the correct treadwear rating?

My Escta XS are 180. I thought the V's were around 200.

600 sounds way too hard of a compound for a Cobra.

I agree that 600 sounds crazy-hard, but from the description it sounds like they use engineered sipes to improve traction.

I'm skeptical, which is why I asked. They seem to have good reviews, of course I'm guessing most reviews come from lower profile versions like Ozzie Goat's.

Size: 225/60R15
Sidewall Style: Blackwall
Serv. Desc: 96V
UTQG: 600 A A

The Ecsta LX Platinum (KU27) is Kumho's Grand Touring All-Season tire developed to meet the needs of sporty coupe and luxury performance sedan drivers. It is designed to blend responsive handling, long wear and a quiet ride with year-round traction including in light snow.

Kumho molds their advanced all-season tread compound into the Ecsta LX Platinum radial's asymmetric tread design where three different types of sipes are used to enhance all-season traction. Outboard shoulder and intermediate tread block sipes terminate in stress relief dimples to help the sipe openings blend straight-line snow traction with lateral grip. Straight sipes are used for the middle blocks while waffle design sipes are used on the inboard intermediate and shoulder tread blocks to blend dry-road stability with all-season traction. The internal structure of Ecsta LX Platinum tires feature twin steel belts reinforced with spirally wrapped nylon cord on top of a polyester cord casing to combine high-speed durability with ride quality.

SIZE UTQG MAX.LOAD MAX. INFL. PRESS. TREAD DEPTH TIRE WEIGHT
225/60R15 96V SL 600 A A 1,565 lbs. 51 psi 10.5/32" 25 lbs.

RIM WIDTH RANGE MEAS. RIM WIDTH SECT. WIDTH TREAD WIDTH OVERALL DIAM. REVS. PER MILE COO*
6-8" 6.5" 8.8" NA 25.6" 811 KR

Below is a comparison between the Ecsta and BFG. The Ecsta is not outstanding by a long shot, but is quite a bit better than the BFG. The question is how it compares to the Cooper Cobra, Thompson S/T or S/R, and Pirelli P600?

[ACHiPo]

Originally Posted by cycleguy55

No personal experience, other than the Kumho tires on my wife's Infiniti G35x. Regardless, TireRack lists a bunch of different Kumho Ecsta tires, but the only one they have in that size is the Kumho Ecsta Platinum (V-rated, 600AA) - a Grand Touring tire. https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...omCompare1=yes

They list them as 'Good' wet and dry performance - not Excellent. I wouldn't consider this a great tire for a Cobra. That size is also the widest 15" in that tire, which begs the question of what you'd put on the rear.

I'm planning on sunburst wheels on the front and back of my street 427, so both would get the same width tires.

I'm currently running Goodrich T/As on my S/C, which suck--they are "S" rated, and have a treadwear of 400, but are quite squirrelly especially on wet roads. I was heading out to the Pacific Coast Highway Saturday and there were some run-off springs that made some of the corners wet. On one turn I accelerated very mildly and thought I was going to get to know the Porsche driver in the oncoming lane a little too well. I was able to limit it to a little fishtail, but it was really unnerving and makes me determined to find much better tires for my street car, if not for the S/C.


TireRack also has Pirelli P600s at $250@ with no reviews.
Size: 235/60R15 98W
Sidewall Style: Blackwall
UTQG: 180 A A

[domenic saia]

Originally Posted by achipo

was browsing this morning and came across kumho ecsta v-rated 225/60r15 tires for $65 each. While i'd like wider (255/60) tires for my 7 1/2" sunburst wheels, i like the idea of getting a v-rated tire, especially for under $100 each and with a treadwear rating of 600aa.

Does anyone have any experience with these tires on a cobra?

hi! Have these on my 1966 shelby gt350 clone................ They are fine i have no problems with them and they are very inexpensive! I will purchase them again! Domenic saia

[ScratchBuilder]

I was talked into these by a local tire shop. I would not recommend unless you are looking for something to move the car around and slow drives. They are as hard as a rock and I replaced them with Trofeo R tires on my GT350. Im not sure if there are better choices though.
SB

[ACHiPo]

Originally Posted by ScratchBuilder

I was talked into these by a local tire shop. I would not recommend unless you are looking for something to move the car around and slow drives. They are as hard as a rock and I replaced them with Trofeo R tires on my GT350. Im not sure if there are better choices though.
SB

I'd guess the Trofeo R tires are quite a bit better than the Kumho Ecsta LX Platinum. Unfortunately they don't come close to the size I need.

Pirelli does make the P600 in a high-profile 15" tire that could work for my application--235/60R15 and they are W rated. Not cheap, but at $250 each they are a lot less than the Avons. Unfortunately they seem to be new, so no reviews yet.

[ACHiPo]

Originally Posted by domenic saia

hi! Have these on my 1966 shelby gt350 clone................ They are fine i have no problems with them and they are very inexpensive! I will purchase them again! Domenic saia

Dominic,
Thanks. That's a good endorsement.

[cycleguy55]

Originally Posted by ACHiPo

Dominic,
Thanks. That's a good endorsement.

Except the Mustang may weigh 1,000 pounds more than a Cobra.

[cycleguy55]

Originally Posted by ACHiPo

I agree that 600 sounds crazy-hard, but from the description it sounds like they use engineered sipes to improve traction.

I'm skeptical, which is why I asked. They seem to have good reviews, of course I'm guessing most reviews come from lower profile versions like Ozzie Goat's.

Size: 225/60R15
Sidewall Style: Blackwall
Serv. Desc: 96V
UTQG: 600 A A

The Ecsta LX Platinum (KU27) is Kumho's Grand Touring All-Season tire developed to meet the needs of sporty coupe and luxury performance sedan drivers. It is designed to blend responsive handling, long wear and a quiet ride with year-round traction including in light snow.

Kumho molds their advanced all-season tread compound into the Ecsta LX Platinum radial's asymmetric tread design where three different types of sipes are used to enhance all-season traction. Outboard shoulder and intermediate tread block sipes terminate in stress relief dimples to help the sipe openings blend straight-line snow traction with lateral grip. Straight sipes are used for the middle blocks while waffle design sipes are used on the inboard intermediate and shoulder tread blocks to blend dry-road stability with all-season traction. The internal structure of Ecsta LX Platinum tires feature twin steel belts reinforced with spirally wrapped nylon cord on top of a polyester cord casing to combine high-speed durability with ride quality.

SIZE UTQG MAX.LOAD MAX. INFL. PRESS. TREAD DEPTH TIRE WEIGHT
225/60R15 96V SL 600 A A 1,565 lbs. 51 psi 10.5/32" 25 lbs.

RIM WIDTH RANGE MEAS. RIM WIDTH SECT. WIDTH TREAD WIDTH OVERALL DIAM. REVS. PER MILE COO*
6-8" 6.5" 8.8" NA 25.6" 811 KR

Below is a comparison between the Ecsta and BFG. The Ecsta is not outstanding by a long shot, but is quite a bit better than the BFG. The question is how it compares to the Cooper Cobra, Thompson S/T or S/R, and Pirelli P600?

Gotta love owner reviews. The Kumho scores higher across the board - yet owners give it a lower score on the 'Would you recommend?' question. Huh?

[dallas_]

my 2 cents is for a cobra, get some sticky tires. Seriously. Hard tires are dangerous on these things.

[ACHiPo]

Originally Posted by cycleguy55

Gotta love owner reviews. The Kumho scores higher across the board - yet owners give it a lower score on the 'Would you recommend?' question. Huh?

Yeah, I noticed that.

Again, I'm skeptical. Several years ago I got all excited about getting a set of Bridgestone Pole Positions based on Tire Rack rave reviews (and more than a handful of them--maybe 700?). I bought them and they sucked--wore fast, were loud, and did not have good rain or snow traction--contrary to the pre-purchase reviews. Well after moving back to Michelin, I checked the reviews on the Pole Positions again and they'd dropped at least a point across the board.

I'm starting believe you pay your money...

[ACHiPo]

Originally Posted by dallas_

my 2 cents is for a cobra, get some sticky tires. Seriously. Hard tires are dangerous on these things.

I'm in. Here are the choices:
Cooper Cobra/Mickey Thompson S/T--reports that they're great, reports that they're not up to the task--S rating concerns me?
Kumho Ecsta LX Platinum is V rated. Reports they're great, reports they're hard. 400 treadwear.?
Mickey Thompson SR--reports that they're great. reports that they're hard--H rated gives me a warmer fuzzy, but only for show?
Avons--rave reviews, local installation $2400/set for 1-2 seasons. Treadwear 80?
Pirellis--W rated, no reviews, treadwear 180?
Billboards?

[CHANMADD]

Ive had 16 " Kumhos on my car for a while , they have been great , I 've never had it get away...and they are cheap!!
225 front and 255 rear

[dallas_]

Does Nitto have any in your size?
The NT01's are like 100 tread wear if I remember right and they have good reviews.

[ACHiPo]

Originally Posted by dallas_

Does Nitto have any in your size?
The NT01's are like 100 tread wear if I remember right and they have good reviews.

The NT01s are sticky with Treadwear of 100, but they only come in low profiles (45 and 50) in 15" diameter, plus they only have 6/32" tread depth. I want something sticky that can still handle wet roads if necessary--it looks like those things would hydroplane like crazy.