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03-31-2021, 12:19 PM
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15” Tires bias ply only !!
I’m sure everybody’s thinking that the last thing that this site needs is another tire discussion . but for some reason all the discussions end in the same way billboards are illegal Avon are too expensive Everybody sick of BFG I would like to stick with one topic and end with one topic only bias ply tires 15” inch that are legal to drive on the street With tire sizes that actually work on a AC cobra
No radial talk
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03-31-2021, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 3040csx
I’m sure everybody’s thinking that the last thing that this site needs is another tire discussion . but for some reason all the discussions end in the same way billboards are illegal Avon are too expensive Everybody sick of BFG I would like to stick with one topic and end with one topic only bias ply tires 15” inch that are legal to drive on the street With tire sizes that actually work on a AC cobra
No radial talk
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Just curious: Why limit the convo to bias ply tires?
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03-31-2021, 01:17 PM
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, go to coker tire for period correct bias tires. They will not have the sticky compound that avon and goodyear will have.
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03-31-2021, 01:29 PM
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Goodyear, Polyglas are a DOT choice and from my experience very good on these cars....
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03-31-2021, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by cycleguy55
Just curious: Why limit the convo to bias ply tires?
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Ditto on Brian's question.
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03-31-2021, 05:05 PM
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, go to coker tire for period correct bias tires. They will not have the sticky compound that avon and goodyear will have.
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I checked Coker I couldn’t find the sizes that you would normally use on the cobra once I finally get mine done I may be able to do some measurements to see if the N 5015’s fit And something like G 60s in the front but I was on the phone with them for a while not a whole Lotta luck . maybe I got the wrong guy
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03-31-2021, 05:13 PM
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Just curious: Why limit the convo to bias ply tires?
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I’ve decided to build my car as a tribute to Csx 3040 and wanted to keep it legal when the car is complete I will need to bring it through a safety check in Florida. it will probably never pass with billboards
I’m sure there’s some other guys out there that are building a tribute car and if we can get enough information together It just might make it easier for their build
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03-31-2021, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 3040csx
I’ve decided to build my car as a tribute to Csx 3040 and wanted to keep it legal when the car is complete I will need to bring it through a safety check in Florida. it will probably never pass with billboards
I’m sure there’s some other guys out there that are building a tribute car and if we can get enough information together It just might make it easier for their build
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Please excuse my confusion but there is clearly something that I am missing here.
You know that Billboards are bias ply tires — right? You correctly state that Billboards will not pass inspection. This has nothing to do with their bias ply construction and everything to do with their lack of DOT certification / registration.
I am struggling with why you would not consider a DOT approved radial that would easily make it through inspection. Then, after inspection, change them out for the Billboards with their period correct look to satisfy your appearance criteria?
Ed
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Reason: Spelling & Grammar
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03-31-2021, 07:58 PM
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in reference to the billboards they are definitely the best looking tire you can get but if you read the other posts because they are not DOT certified and if you have an accident supposedly there is insurance companies are not covering because of lack of DOT certification
I would just like to keep things simple a bias ply 15 inch tire with DOT certification and a tire that does not have a note stamped on the side wall for racing purposes only (Hoosier )I can always grind off the manufacturer and keep the solid black look like the original car
But ..... if I don’t find a good looking bias ply tire I might end up throwing some tires on it to get the inspection and switch over to billboards after:
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03-31-2021, 10:15 PM
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Let's state fact's here. From 63-67 Racing Cobras NEVER EVER had what people call "Goodyear Billboards" those tires came from NASCAR in the 70's period (This is a Pet Peeve of mine). That's when Goodyear/Firestone thought it would be a great way to advertise their product for free. The proper race tire for that era, is a Goodyear Sports Car Special, with a thin blue line around the outside of the tire (Also a Bias-Ply tire). I'm sure Glen (xb-60) has some photos he can share. These are facts. Plus I was around during that era and remember them well. There is a company out there that makes Repo. of these race tires, but you have to do the lettering by hand (About 4-hours per tire, the lettering is flush with the sidewall, No race tire every had "Raised White Letters", in that era). We have a 69 Trans-Am and 67 Camaro around here that are running those tires on the street. Can't remember the company's name (Damn) Cheers TommyRot.
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04-01-2021, 07:20 AM
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Find a set of Tiger Paws by uniroyal. Wore out a few sets on a chevelle in the sixties. Sticky if memory serves me. They still make but a radial then switch out. Just a rant for old times !
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04-01-2021, 07:31 AM
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Mickey Thompson Sportsman Pro. Bias ply and DOT approved.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mtt-6558
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04-01-2021, 10:02 AM
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I really Like the Goodyear polyglass tire unfortunately I cannot find it wider then the G60 and is about 2 inches skinnier then the billboards in the rear
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04-01-2021, 10:07 AM
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MT sportsmen is a great looking tire . have you ever seen them mounted on a cobra they just seem like a really high tire possibly too big to squish up underneath the fenders
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04-04-2021, 08:34 PM
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I have used street comps for a few years now, good wear and wetstreets
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04-05-2021, 07:02 AM
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I am thinking that those are probably not road legal. They remind me of my Hooiser TDR's which are "DOT rated" but are a vintage race tire. All of the types listed on that website are for race cars or race classifications. That DOT classification is confusing for people at times. From a race perspective, a DOT rated tire basically means that it has a minimal amount of tread, i.e., it's not a slick. Having raced with my Hoosier's on a wet track, it is not something that you want to have on your car on the street unless you are wearing some good adult underpants . They hydroplane very well and you won't believe how quickly you will be getting a 360 degree view of the surrounding country side with only a minimal amount of water on the road surface.
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04-05-2021, 08:34 AM
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The tires that CSX3040 wear's now (Latest pictures found) are Goodyear Eagle sports car tires (Bias Belted, No DOT) without the lettering painted (Blackwall). If you want to go that route, here's a good place to start, I'm sure they would be happy to sell you a set of new tires as well. Or go to a Vintage car race and find the gentlemen there that supply's the racers, but as Jim (1795) said they suck for street tires. I've run Goodyear Blue Streaks on the street years ago (But then I also drove my race car a few times on the street, being young dumb kid, I thought I was COOL ) Think long & hard about these type of tires, ask someone that have had these tires on the street or better yet ride in a Cobra that have Bias-belted tires, before you pull the trigger. Cheers TommyRot https://usedracingtires.com/pages/go...eak-tire-specs
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04-05-2021, 01:06 PM
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Im reading this post thinking that why does someone spend north, in some cases WAY north of $60k on a hobby car then complain that avon tires are too expensive? I dont get it..
I have billboard tires on my cobra, they are fine around town, but when up to speed on the freeway about 75mph they get scary... I will be buying avons soon. yes they are expensive, but I will save accordingly and not complain about it... some guys buy cheaper tires and trust them with your life? its really not worth it... but some guys will rather save a few hundred dollars I guess SMH...
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04-05-2021, 02:10 PM
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I agree in principal, but imo Mickey Thompson is a better street tire than AVONs; you can have your cake and eat it too because the MT's are roughly half the price of AVONs.
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