LSC-owners. Need measurement's from FE eng. to shifter.

[FUNFER2]

I need someone with a Lone Star Classic cobra, that has a FE engine, to measure from the back of the block to the apx. area of the shifter. Keisler is coming out with a new 5-speed transmission, based off the Tremec, but will be shorter and have three positions for the shifter location. I will be the first street test dog for Cobras. The owner would like measurements from directly straight down from the dash to the tunnel, middle and past the middle, for placement of the shifter.

I would appreciate your help, as I don't have the engine installed.

Thanks,
Kevin

[trularin]

Hey there,

There is a lot of room above the transmission in my car. LSC has a cross bracket that you will want to shim to raise the trans to set the carb surface.

Each car is going to be different, so may I recommend you set the engine and trans in the chassis and set the carb surface/pitch of the engine in general.

Chances are, you will have tons of room to move the shifter if it is not in your desired location.

This is what I did.

I did go through three tranmissions and five shifter until I was comfortable with what I have.

358 ( yes it is a real 358 ) with a Ford bellhousing and a TKO600.

Hope this helps. I am certain someone with more information will give their view.

[FUNFER2]

I think we have a misunderstanding. I don't know what you mean about the carb surface bud. Sorry if I did not explain well enough.

What the the tranny owner needs is measurement's for the shifter location. He wants me to measure from the back of a FE engine to where where we like the shifter to be. I figured I would give him four.

1- straight down from the dash to the tunnel.
2- just ahead of the middle of the tunnel.
3- center of the tunnel.
4- just past center of the tunnel.

That way he'll get a better idea of the layout of the cockpit and where the shifter can be located.

What would be great, is photo's of the cockpit with a tape measure laid on top of the tranny tunnel, and photoed well enough to actually see & read the numbers.

I hope I've explained better of what we need.

[blykins]

It's not Keisler.....at this point they wish it was theirs....

It's a McLeod transmission. All he's doing is having Red Roberts adapt one of his custom shifters to it. Easiest thing to do would be to wait until it's in the car, mocked up, then order the appropriate shifter.

[FUNFER2]

Who is Red Roberts ?

I may have the two trannys mixed up. They also have the "clutchless" 6-speed also. I'll have a chat with Shafi. he just wants a idea of where the shifter location will be.

This is one cool tranny. "Road & Track" 6-speed.

http://www.keislerauto.com/recent-ne...k-6-speed.html

[FUNFER2]

One of the classes of race cars that we sometimes share the night with our sprint car, are the outlaw late models, and they use a clutchless trans. but, I don't know much about them If you watch Keisler's truck video, it shows him shifting and how noisy it is. The shifting really turns my crank and would be fun. (unless it's a pain in the @ss) lol

I guess he drove it several thousand miles on the Hot Rod Power Tour, but how is this tranny on the street ?

Do you have to bang each gear or can you shift is slowly ?

How are the manners on the street ?

It reminds me of the Lenco shifting rods.

[blykins]

They call them crash boxes for a reason....

Upshifting isn't bad at all....bang it into gear. However, downshifting is a different story.

Any box that doesn't have synchronizers isn't going to be fun on the street.

[tnlprt]

WOO late models

They do not use a clutchless trans period

The trans are probably a BERT or BRINN
both of which have an internal clutch

They have 2 forward speeds and reverse

How they work is as follows

you start the engine
place the trans in low to go forward
slowly push down on the clutch pedal to move forward
the farther down you push the pedal the more the clutch locks up
when you have attained sufficient speed
release the clutch pedal and shift the trans into high gear
and away you go

remember never ever jump on it in low or reverse or you will kill the clutch

Oh and reverse is operated the same as low gear

[FUNFER2]

Joe, you're correct. I talked with a racer and he explained it like you have.