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Old 10-18-2017, 05:04 PM
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Default Shifters for Tremec's ?

I just ordered a new Tremec 600. My first was their 3550 and stock shifter. I never had an issue, even shifting fast (not speed shifting) into 3rd gear. Just wanting to try something different than stock. I won't be racing much anymore, just a few track days and street fun, but I do like,...fun banging a few gears.

From the old threads I've seen the two top shifters are the Steeda and Pro.

Why one over the other ?

Any updates or further reviews ?
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Old 10-18-2017, 06:06 PM
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I love my MGW. A little more pricey but worth it. Lots of posts on this (if the search function works).
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Old 10-18-2017, 06:20 PM
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Actually the price isn't bad at $210.

Have you tried other brands ?

On this tablet I can't get the search to work ?
That's why I can't research shifters, but it may be working ?
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Old 10-18-2017, 06:47 PM
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The forum has been having lots of upgrade troubles lately.

I haven't tried any of the others. Everyone has an opinion of the one or two that they tried. Basically, anything is better than stock. They all should have positive stops. I selected the MGW because I didn't find anyone who didn't like it. There are random posts of people who didn't like the others for this reason or that.
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Old 10-18-2017, 07:11 PM
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I see you have a LSC, a few of use are trying to get a forum going again. I don't know if we are talking the old type or the new owners that are only sm blks or not
You can see the thread/s on the front page, so join us.
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I'll second the MGW. When shifting quickly from 2-3, I usually use my thumb, or the palm of my hand and simply push it out of 2nd. It will automatically center directly in between the 3-4 position. Never been a problem. If you get one and take it apart, they are built with some serious strength in mind.

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From what I’ve read, heard, and experienced, the problem with TKO 600 gearboxes is internal and should be addressed before upgrading the shifter.
In my case, I replaced my TKO’s stock shifter with a Steeda model and it made no difference in shift quality. Still shifted like a truck.
Finally bought a blueprinted trans and haven’t missed a 2-3 shift since then.
If you have the time and haven’t installed the trans yet, do a search here and take the trans to a specialist for blueprinting. That’s about the only way to smooth out a TKO. Then you can use any shifter you want.
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I have a tko600 in two vehicles, one with the stock whatever comes with it, and another with the pro 5.0. Can't tell much difference between the two and the stock shifts better I believe though it has more miles on it. I wouldn't waste the money again. The pro 5.0 is on a liberty gear upgraded tranny also, can't tell much difference in the trannies either. I wouldn't get too excited about spending more money on 'upgrades'.
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What problems does the 600 have ?

What mods are done with a blueprinted tranny ?

What are the cost's ?

You would think thatTremec would have these issue's changed !
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Search “TKO UPGRADE” on this forum and read the thread by MaSnaka.
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I can't. Whether it's my wifes tablet or CC's problem, it won't work.
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Try this TKO+UPGRADE

I don't have any problems shifting. The only problem I have is trouble going into first when I am not at a complete dead stop. I think it is that my mechanical clutch linkage is at the bare minimum release point. I didn't have problems with the hydraulic throw out bearing.

I've heard they have problems if you shift over 6000 rpm. I redline at 6k so I don't have that problem. True, it's not as smooth as the T5z I had before, but this isn't a Cadillac. I'm comfortable with mine and never grind or miss a shift with the MGW. Again, I've never heard anyone say the had a MGW and didn't like it. If you are tracking and plan to live in the 5-7k range, you may have problems.... YMMV.

I got mine from Joe Diedreich motorsports. He's the local distributor.
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The problem with shifting the TKO-600 is, well, that it's a TKO-600. I wouldn't expect miracles even with expensive upgrades; been there, done that, spent the money.
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My first Tremec was the 3550, I had no issue's at all, maybe I was lucky ?
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I replaced a 3550 with the 600 for the better gearing. Never any problems with the 3550, even think it shifted better then the 600. The 600 shifts like and always will shift like a truck tranny.
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The problem with the TKO shift quality is directly related to the transmission interlocks between the first /second shift rail and the third / fourth shift rail. You can bolt on any shifter to the transmission and unless the synchronization / timing between the two shift rails and the interlock mechanism is fixed the transmission will shift as bad as ever.

There is only one aftermarket firm I know of that offers replacement shift rails with the timing properly corrected and that is Liberty. Their fix, will fix the Tremec shifting problem. When you do it (if you do it) spend the additional monies to get the carbon fiber faced synchronizer blocking rings. They have a much higher coefficient of friction than the OEM brass rings.

Liberty also offers a countershaft upgrade for the front bearing. I highly recommend the up grade it will save you pain and suffering if you do it now rather than later.

The interlock fix will fix the shifting bad manners and the front bearing support upgrade will improve the long term reliability of the box.

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The problem with the TKO shift quality is directly related to the transmission interlocks between the first /second shift rail and the third / fourth shift rail. You can bolt on any shifter to the transmission and unless the synchronization / timing between the two shift rails and the interlock mechanism is fixed the transmission will shift as bad as ever.

There is only one aftermarket firm I know of that offers replacement shift rails with the timing properly corrected and that is Liberty. Their fix, will fix the Tremec shifting problem. When you do it (if you do it) spend the additional monies to get the carbon fiber faced synchronizer blocking rings. They have a much higher coefficient of friction than the OEM brass rings.

Liberty also offers a countershaft upgrade for the front bearing. I highly recommend the up grade it will save you pain and suffering if you do it now rather than later.

The interlock fix will fix the shifting bad manners and the front bearing support upgrade will improve the long term reliability of the box.

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Mine has the upgrades you mention, you make it sound like the be all to end all, it is not, it still shifts like a truck tranny. Just the nature and design of the 600.
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I guess with how much Iliked (not loved) my 3550 and now 17 years later, that the 600 would be great. Guess I should have looked into it further.
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I guess with how much Iliked (not loved) my 3550 and now 17 years later, that the 600 would be great. Guess I should have looked into it further.
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I guess with how much Iliked (not loved) my 3550 and now 17 years later, that the 600 would be great. Guess I should have looked into it further.
Come on down to KC, my 3550 is sitting in a box.
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